Let's talk about how Keith Thurman is the mandatory challenger to Pacquiao/Mayweather winner

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I need to see one more fight from One Time and one from Khan to make me a believer. On the real I see Khan beating One Time, I just need to see Khan in another top fight.
One Time really impressed me and disappointed me vs. Ghost, he impressed me with his boxing but disappointed me with his defense and stamina.

They need to get in the ring with each other.
 

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As long as Mayweather keeps winning, the organizations will never force Mayweather to fight a mandatory. He is too valuable to them.

Dan went over this in one of his chats recently, that as long as Mayweather puts his belts up against any opponent they still get their sanctioning fees. They will let him push off any mandatories because they want him to defend their belts to get the sanctioning fees (I think they are based of the fighter's purse, so it greatly benefits to have a belt defended by Mayweather).

This is kind of how it should be, as long as the title is up for grabs then there shouldn't be an enforced opponent - unless maybe you've gone too long without taking on the #1 contender, and even then the fight should have to coincide with the champs schedule. If they're doing it like this though they shouldn't be enforcing any mandatory fights, for example - going after Cotto for the GGG fight is great and all, the fans want to see it . . but at the same time it's like their only motivation is to build him up.


They need to get in the ring with each other.

Khan should have to go against Brook first and get that IBF title, winner of that should get Thurman. Honestly I have no faith in Khan, I believe if you put him in the ring with 10 contenders you'll see him lose at least 5 times. Danny Garcia outclassed him and knocked him out, if Danny can prove himself at 147 why wouldn't he be the contender?

It's only a matter of time before Khan is proven to be a pretender, if his management doesn't pick his fights well he could be journeyman status within the next 2 years.


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This is kind of how it should be, as long as the title is up for grabs then there shouldn't be an enforced opponent - unless maybe you've gone too long without taking on the #1 contender, and even then the fight should have to coincide with the champs schedule. If they're doing it like this though they shouldn't be enforcing any mandatory fights, for example - going after Cotto for the GGG fight is great and all, the fans want to see it . . but at the same time it's like their only motivation is to build him up.




Khan should have to go against Brook first and get that IBF title, winner of that should get Thurman. Honestly I have no faith in Khan, I believe if you put him in the ring with 10 contenders you'll see him lose at least 5 times. Danny Garcia outclassed him and knocked him out, if Danny can prove himself at 147 why wouldn't he be the contender?

It's only a matter of time before Khan is proven to be a pretender, if his management doesn't pick his fights well he could be journeyman status within the next 2 years.


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Danny didnt outclass Khan. He KOd him, sure. Out-class? Nah.


And Cotto needs to fight GGG, because GGG is the TRUE #1 Middleweight and Miguel Cotto is the Lineal Champion at Middleweight. Why shouldnt the Lineal Champ defend the Championship against the #1 contender?
 

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Danny didnt outclass Khan. He KOd him, sure. Out-class? Nah.


And Cotto needs to fight GGG, because GGG is the TRUE #1 Middleweight and Miguel Cotto is the Lineal Champion at Middleweight. Why shouldnt the Lineal Champ defend the Championship against the #1 contender?

Nahh breh the fight went 4 rounds and not only had he decisively won the 3rd round but he scored a knock down and then finished him off the next round. All we could say is that Khan looked better athletically, hand speed. If you just look at his skillset you'd have to wonder how a guy who's been boxing for most of his life goes down the way he does

And I'm just saying there should be some consistency. If we're gonna enforce one, we should enforce the other or not enforce any at all
 
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Danny didnt outclass Khan. He KOd him, sure. Out-class? Nah.


And Cotto needs to fight GGG, because GGG is the TRUE #1 Middleweight and Miguel Cotto is the Lineal Champion at Middleweight. Why shouldnt the Lineal Champ defend the Championship against the #1 contender?
Angel is scared breh, he wants no parts of GGG.
 

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Nahh breh the fight went 4 rounds and not only had he decisively won the 3rd round but he scored a knock down and then finished him off the next round. All we could say is that Khan looked better athletically, hand speed. If you just look at his skillset you'd have to wonder how a guy who's been boxing for most of his life goes down the way he does

And I'm just saying there should be some consistency. If we're gonna enforce one, we should enforce the other or not enforce any at all

You say Garcia won rounds 3 and 4. Well, he lost rounds 1 and 2.

He beat Khan, KOd him, but he didn't out class him. Outclassing someone is to beat someone so easy, that you make it seem like yall don't belong in the ring together...Danny didn't do that imo:manny:

He got a good W via KO over a good opponent. No outclassing was done though:yeshrug:

When I think "outclass", I think Floyd/Gatti
 

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Okay, maybe "outclassed" was a bit strong of a word . . but he won "decisively" :demonic: albeit I will admit he looked more skilled than Swift
 

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This is straight up ridiculous. Has anyone petitioned them to make a change? Totally takes away from the prestige of these belts



Khan and Kell Brook have essentially the same style and skill set . . Kell Brook just has a chin
Nooo. Kell Brook is more patient with more power. Kahn is punch happy. Kell Brook has better head movement as well.
 

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Nooo. Kell Brook is more patient with more power. Kahn is punch happy. Kell Brook has better head movement as well.

Khan just looks like a better boxer because of his hand speed but subtract that Kell Brook is an all around better and more balanced fighter
 

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With Thurman's defend that hand speed would be tough for him to deal with but with Khan's chin it could very well easily end up being an early night


Kell Brook is the bigger challenge for Thurman because he's gotta chin and he's not gonna gas going 12 rounds
 

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With Thurman's defend that hand speed would be tough for him to deal with but with Khan's chin it could very well easily end up being an early night


Kell Brook is the bigger challenge for Thurman because he's gotta chin and he's not gonna gas going 12 rounds
I believe his purse would be bigger fighting Khan than Brook... Plus if he beats Khan I believe that would make him A-side vs Brook
 

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With Thurman's defend that hand speed would be tough for him to deal with but with Khan's chin it could very well easily end up being an early night


Kell Brook is the bigger challenge for Thurman because he's gotta chin and he's not gonna gas going 12 rounds
One time will KO Khan...

Bet the house on it with confidence...
 

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Nooo. Kell Brook is more patient with more power. Kahn is punch happy. Kell Brook has better head movement as well.

Khan was punch happy. Virgil has done a terrific job of helping him hone in his talent. You can tell under Hunter Thay he really understands that defense can help you win a fight more than it can make you lose a fight.

His recent success is all becuz of Virgil Hunter and watching the REAL #1 P4P do work.
 

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So if Floyd (the super champion) beats Keith Thurman (the regular champion), he would get the regular belt . . then they would crown a new regular champion out of thin air?
Well, he'd just continue being "super champion" the interim champ would be elevated and they'd crown a new interim champion................


This JUST happened my African, Mayweather beat the regular champion, Marcos Maidana, and Keith Thurman was elevated. Andre Berto just defeated Josesito Lopez for the vacant interim title.
 
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