Let's revisit the 1983 & 2004 NFL Drafts, The Class of QB's

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So I took the day off of work, I'm here at the crib chillen, eating a fruit salad and was thinking about the 2 draft classes. I was curious as to where everyone here stood regarding the 2 classes. So bear with me brehs, let me elaborate...

The closest thing to the 1983 draft as far as QB's is the 2004 draft.

The 1983 draft featured the likes of John Elway(#1 OVR), Jim Kelly(#14 OVR) & Dan Marino(#27 OVR). All 3 QB's are Hall of Famers and have 10 SB Appearances between all of them, however, winning only 2(Both by Elway). By today's media standards, they would all be scrutinized as not being 'Big Game QB's'. They also feature 7 1st/2nd team All Pro nods. The 1st Rd. also saw 3 other QB's drafted. Todd Blackledge(#7 OVR) was drafted by the Cheifs and never amounted to anything. Tony Eason(#15 OVR) was drafted by the Patriots and actually ended up making the Super Bowl in 1985 against the Bears and produced the worst performance in history for a qb not completing a pass and being replaced by a backup. He continued that class of qb's undesirable super bowl appearances. Both Eason & Blackledge never made a Pro Bowl. Finally, you have Ken O'Brien(#24 OVR) drafted by the Jets. O'Brien made 2 Pro Bowls and put up great statistics over his short career.

The 2004 Draft is the modern day equivalent. You have 4 Notable QB's, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers & Matt Schuab(3rd Rd). JP Losman was the other notable QB drafted in the 1st rd. In the fashion that the 83 draft couldn't do, these QB's already have 4 super bowl wins between approaching the mid point of there careers.

While the 2004 Draft class has Super Bowl hardware, they lack the Indivual hardware that the 83 class has such as NFL MVP's and All Pro's. I think this is accredited to 2 of the All Time best QB's currently still playing, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Also notably Drew Brees. While the 83 Class did have to deal with Montana, he was never a person who put up huge regular season #'s, he was just a winner. He was also the only other notable QB of that era outside of Boomer Esiason. While Ben, Eli and Philip are the most talked about. Matt is slowly showing signs of life. If not injured last year he would've had a legitimate shot at the super bowl.

I'm curious what my Coli brehs think about the 2 drafts, how they compare, is one obviously better than the other, how do you see the 2004 draft ending there careers hardware wise. Also how do you rank all the qb's, and with that ranking im wondering how you rank them as far as 4th qtr QB's and as winners.
 

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The '83 draft is more legendary simply because we haven't seen the full capacity of what the '04 class may have. The '04 draft could easily de-throne the '83 class.

Marino would have been one hell of a Fantasy QB :ooh:
 

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The '83 draft is more legendary simply because we haven't seen the full capacity of what the '04 class may have. The '04 draft could easily de-throne the '83 class.

Marino would have been one hell of a Fantasy QB :ooh:

fantasy tho would've seen a huge dissparity between good and bad teams. Stats were too top heavy. RB would've been a good position but WR and QB would've been top 3 heavy as hell. Having the #1 overall pick would've been huge. Im taking Marino, Roger Craig or Walter Peyton. Lol tho at games being low scoring as hell in fantasy tho
 

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:to: my quarterback has two superbowl rings/mvp. I'm not ready for the dark ages after he leaves.

I think eli and ben are going to canton.

Its funny how the top draft picks didn't want to go to a bum ass franchise and got two rings.
 

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Im curious, do yall think the Media, at this point in there careers, would be shyting on Marino, Elway and Kelly for there lack of big game wins. I mean these cats we 0-9 in SB's(including Eason) after there 11th year. Thats un-heardof
 

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Big Ben. Thats my QB. :to:

I remember that 04 draft. I was fine with TiMobile Maddox. :gag: I actually wanted us to get DeAngelo Hall. . . :yeshrug: When he was off the board. . I was like. . Ok Ben I guess.:unsure:


If I had a choice at QB back then I actually wanted Rivers. Which would have been a great choice. Dude is a beast. . But Ben is the best fit for us. Big, strong, mobile gunslinger. We have ate well. :win:
 

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I wasn't alive and was to young to remember the 83 class but I always get the idea the AFC back than was like how East was in the NBA in the Early 00's.

from 84-94 an 83 QB was in thegame SB 7 times and I don't think one of them ever had a decent game.

Maybe Kelly did in the Norwood game .... I know Elway played like shyt. What does it say about Marino that the Dolphins used to get bodied by the Bills every time in the 90's
 

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These 2 classes are not only great because of there #'s. But both classes can play in either era. Ben looks like a qb that could've done good in the 80's. Imagine Marino tho with some of todays weapons:ooh:
 

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Big Ben. Thats my QB. :to:

I remember that 04 draft. I was fine with TiMobile Maddox. :gag: I actually wanted us to get DeAngelo Hall. . . :yeshrug: When he was off the board. . I was like. . Ok Ben I guess.:unsure:


If I had a choice at QB back then I actually wanted Rivers. Which would have been a great choice. Dude is a beast. . But Ben is the best fit for us. Big, strong, mobile gunslinger. We have ate well. :win:

Eli & Archie knew what they were doing by refusing to do business with San Diego. Philip Rivers should have a SB by now but they surround him with shyt talent and a garbage coaching staff. :noah:

Philip Rivers is my dude too. :shaq2:
 
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t. What does it say about Marino that the Dolphins used to get bodied by the Bills every time in the 90's


:what: It says he never had a defense that could hold the Bills

Check out the 91 playoff game Bills vs Dolphisn in a blizzard and watch Marino and tell me he wasnt that nikka
 

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FreedS[ohh]lave;999064 said:
:what: It says he never had a defense that could hold the Bills

Check out the 91 playoff game Bills vs Dolphisn in a blizzard and watch Marino and tell me he wasnt that nikka

I feel you breh, if he had a semi decent defense he woulda atleast been on peytons status with 1 super bowl
 

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Shoot looking back on it....2004 NFL Draft might be one of the Goat's and we only talking about QB's.

yea breh, there are a shyt load of pro bowlers from the draft. If you Wikipedia the drafts itll show you highlighted pro bowlers and hall of famers from each draft. 2004 is real good
 
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