Let's Be Reality, Jayden Daniels DESERVES MVP Consideration

Does JD5 deserve any MVP votes


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PatCake

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Awards are very subjective and narrative based. Esp individual voting awards.

It's why I care more about Championships and overall team perfomance than awards.

Having said that, I belive if it were Caleb Williams who took Commanders to 12-5 with these stats this MVP conversation would have been a serious one:manny:

Narritive>Facts
 

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The top 3 are miles ahead of Jayden when it comes to MVP consideration this year
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I'll say this... when you want to speak in terms of statistical semantics, yes, Lamar Jackson has a statistical edge over Jayden Daniels.

HOWEVER, Lamar this season has WAY WAY WAY FUCCKIN' MORE TEAM TALENT to help his stats be where they're at. Whereas, DANIELS literally had to carry the entire TEAM on his back because he has a shytty, defense, an obsolete O-line, NO SOLID RB core, ONE good receiver. And YET, the Commanders has the SAME EXACT NUMBER OF WINS AS THE RAVENS this season. Daniels had 7 GAME WINNING DRIVES, should've been EIGHT when they faced Dallas the first time, but their kicker missed the extra point!

If we're talking about one player who's has been more valuable, single-handedly turned a 4-13 team last season to be 12-5 in the regular season, the best record the team had for over 30 years, with this without any really help outside of Terry. So, yes... if we want to speak semantics and say despite all the weapons that Lamar has, he's statistically better but I strongly argue he's not miles away. I never like placing MVP SOLELY due to having a greater statistical number. I take it as who's more valuable in that the team wouldn't make it without him. For a player that had to do it all to ensure success. And I feel the ONLY reason people isn't putting Jayden into the conversation is because he's a ROOKIE doing MVP caliber stuff, but still just a ROOKIE so y'all won't acknowledge it.
 

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And?
Who of note did the Commanders beat during the reg season
Who did they rack up 12 wins against

They beat the Eagles... strictly because of Jayden.

Who exactly did the Raven beat that's better than the Eagles? The Ravens as a TEAM is WAY BETTER than the Commanders, and even in a face off, it was close, not because of Lamar, but because the Ravens had HENRY. Ravens have more weapons and the Commander has NONE outside of Terry.
 

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One of the greatest rookie seasons ever but no he shouldn’t get any mvp votes strictly cuz Lamar, Josh, Henry and Barkley had such amazing seasons and more valuable overall..leads to no votes going to him least for mvp
 

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I'll say this... when you want to speak in terms of statistical semantics, yes, Lamar Jackson has a statistical edge over Jayden Daniels.

HOWEVER, Lamar this season has WAY WAY WAY FUCCKIN' MORE TEAM TALENT to help his stats be where they're at. Whereas, DANIELS literally had to carry the entire TEAM on his back because he has a shytty, defense, an obsolete O-line, NO SOLID RB core, ONE good receiver. And YET, the Commanders has the SAME EXACT NUMBER OF WINS AS THE RAVENS this season. Daniels had 7 GAME WINNING DRIVES, should've been EIGHT when they faced Dallas the first time, but their kicker missed the extra point!

If we're talking about one player who's has been more valuable, single-handedly turned a 4-13 team last season to be 12-5 in the regular season, the best record the team had for over 30 years, with this without any really help outside of Terry. So, yes... if we want to speak semantics and say despite all the weapons that Lamar has, he's statistically better but I strongly argue he's not miles away. I never like placing MVP SOLELY due to having a greater statistical number. I take it as who's more valuable in that the team wouldn't make it without him. For a player that had to do it all to ensure success. And I feel the ONLY reason people isn't putting Jayden into the conversation is because he's a ROOKIE doing MVP caliber stuff, but still just a ROOKIE so y'all won't acknowledge it.

They beat the Eagles... strictly because of Jayden.

Who exactly did the Raven beat that's better than the Eagles? The Ravens as a TEAM is WAY BETTER than the Commanders, and even in a face off, it was close, not because of Lamar, but because the Ravens had HENRY. Ravens have more weapons and the Commander has NONE outside of Terry.
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The thread premise is: should Jayden receive MVP consideration

You bringing up Lamar vs Jayden

Are you saying that the consensus top 3 MVP candidates for realistic considerarion this season of Jackson, Allen, Barkley, should replace Jackson with Daniels?
 

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Almost impossible to win MVP without winning your division or putting up crazy numbers.

He doesn't have the base requirements to join the conversation
 

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Commanders had a really soft schedule. They lost to every decent team they faced beside a kenny Pickett Philly team and yesterday against Bucs. ROY but not close to Mvp discussions
 
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