Lets be reality; Biggie was largely at fault with the Beef btw Pac

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Biggie stannery logic and revisionist history is incredibly rampant (and its spewed by Piggie stans on the coli on a daily basis). So lets clear some stuff up;

Pac never claimed Biggie set him up, he claimed that he didn't tell him who shot him immediately after the shooting when asked (he was stalling), and he didn't team up with him against Puffy, Henchmen, Jack, etc (but I can see why Biggie didn't).

Biggie seeing Pac in the hospital right after the shooting doesn't negate what I said above.

When Pac went to jail he didn't throw Biggie under the bus because he didn't suspect Biggie of being involved in the set-up. nikkas in jail were trying to say Biggie was involved in some why, but Pac rebuffed those ideas.

February 20, 1995, Biggie and Puffy release "Who Shot Ya" after the shooting which is an ill-advised move on both parts, regardless if the song was meant for Pac or not.

April 1995, Pac does that Vibe interview discussing the shooting, and mentions Henchmen and Jack's involvement (and Puffy playing a role in it). I don't recall him naming Biggie (if so correct me on this I haven't read that shyt in a while). Even in Against All Odds he names the nikkas that had a hand on his setup/shooting, and once again he never named Biggie.

Now DPG and Snoop release NY NY in November of 1995, as a tribute song to NY. Now what does Biggie do? He goes to a radio show saying Pac and DPG were filming in NY and "How are we gonna let them do this".

DPG and Snoop's trailer gets shot up (idk I heard rumors that it was Henchmen's goons), and they turn that song into a diss.

Pac, deadly threat, Dj quick, and DPG release NY 87 as a response to Biggie's reckless actions.

June 4, 1996, Pac releases Hit em Up as a response Who Shot Ya.


1. "Pac blamed Biggie for the setup".
Debunked. He never blamed Biggie for no setup. He only accussed him of being a coward and disloyal (argumentative)
2. "But Pac and Biggie's friendship was a year long. Why would Pac be Angry". Considering Pac let Biggie open during his concerts, letting him sleep on his couch since he was homeless, taking the fall for gun charges for Biggie and his crew when they left it and dipped during the scene (idk where), giving Junior Mafia enough bus money to go home (:pachaha:), Biggie stole Pac's album concept (and didn't even give him a shoutout) on R2D, etc. So Pac being "angry" at Big is justified.
3. "But Pac beefed with Biggie to sell records". Possibly the biggest lie and excuse used by Biggie stans born after 1993. Pac already had a gold album (thug life vol 1) and 2 plat albums (s4mn and matw), and movie roles that would ensure his longevity in the entertainment industry. In fact, all of Pac's disses were a result of Biggie's first song that he released. As I listed above Pac never talked to the media until Biggie released Who Shot Ya. And why would Pac want to beef to sell records during a time when everyone was going gold and platinum without beefing?


Biggie stan logic debunked.

Keep ya head up Big...oh wait :pachaha:

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nikka made a stan rebuttal thread:dead: they must be gettin at pac in that other thread:pachaha:
:mjlol: Who was getting at Pac? The same 4-6 nikkas that are obsessing over Pac in every thread relating to him? And that thread is full of nikkas with their alt accounts (namely @'Lando).

You got Biggie stans impersonating dead gangbangers now :mjlol:
 

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them nikkaz souls are still burning after 18 years. You know why? It's on MATW... the 1st words on "If I Die 2nite"... "A coward dies a thousand deaths, a soldier dies but once"

These nikkaz still dying their thousand deaths.

I dont wanna live in a world where its cool for a nikka to turn his back on another nikka that help him get a leg up and provide for they families... "nikkaz tried to kill me and I fed they wife and they daughters..." shyt is despicable, there's almost nothing worse...
 

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them nikkaz souls are still burning after 18 years. You know why? It's on MATW... the 1st words on "If I Die 2nite"... "A coward dies a thousand deaths, a soldier dies but once"

These nikkaz still dying their thousand deaths.

I dont wanna live in a world where its cool for a nikka to turn his back on another nikka that help him get a leg up and provide for they families... "nikkaz tried to kill me and I fed they wife and they daughters..." shyt is despicable, there's almost nothing worse...
:mjlol: dead on my nikka. They cant even refute none of this.

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Biggie stannery logic and revisionist history is incredibly rampant (and its spewed by Piggie stans on the coli on a daily basis). So lets clear some stuff up;

Pac never claimed Biggie set him up, he claimed that he didn't tell him who shot him immediately after the shooting when asked (he was stalling), and he didn't team up with him against Puffy, Henchmen, Jack, etc (but I can see why Biggie didn't).

Biggie seeing Pac in the hospital right after the shooting doesn't negate what I said above.

When Pac went to jail he didn't throw Biggie under the bus because he didn't suspect Biggie of being involved in the set-up. nikkas in jail were trying to say Biggie was involved in some why, but Pac rebuffed those ideas.

February 20, 1995, Biggie and Puffy release "Who Shot Ya" after the shooting which is an ill-advised move on both parts, regardless if the song was meant for Pac or not.

April 1995, Pac does that Vibe interview discussing the shooting, and mentions Henchmen and Jack's involvement (and Puffy playing a role in it). I don't recall him naming Biggie (if so correct me on this I haven't read that shyt in a while). Even in Against All Odds he names the nikkas that had a hand on his setup/shooting, and once again he never named Biggie.

Now DPG and Snoop release NY NY in November of 1995, as a tribute song to NY. Now what does Biggie do? He goes to a radio show saying Pac and DPG were filming in NY and "How are we gonna let them do this".

DPG and Snoop's trailer gets shot up (idk I heard rumors that it was Henchmen's goons), and they turn that song into a diss.

Pac, deadly threat, Dj quick, and DPG release NY 87 as a response to Biggie's reckless actions.

June 4, 1996, Pac releases Hit em Up as a response Who Shot Ya.


1. "Pac blamed Biggie for the setup".
Debunked. He never blamed Biggie for no setup. He only accussed him of being a coward and disloyal (argumentative)
2. "But Pac and Biggie's friendship was a year long. Why would Pac be Angry". Considering Pac let Biggie open during his concerts, letting him sleep on his couch since he was homeless, taking the fall for gun charges for Biggie and his crew when they left it and dipped during the scene (idk where), giving Junior Mafia enough bus money to go home (:pachaha:), Biggie stole Pac's album concept (and didn't even give him a shoutout) on R2D, etc. So Pac being "angry" at Big is justified.
3. "But Pac beefed with Biggie to sell records". Possibly the biggest lie and excuse used by Biggie stans born after 1993. Pac already had a gold album (thug life vol 1) and 2 plat albums (s4mn and matw), and movie roles that would ensure his longevity in the entertainment industry. In fact, all of Pac's disses were a result of Biggie's first song that he released. As I listed above Pac never talked to the media until Biggie released Who Shot Ya. And why would Pac want to beef to sell records during a time when everyone was going gold and platinum without beefing?


Biggie stan logic debunked.

Keep ya head up Big...oh wait :pachaha:

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1. :patrice: wasnt a line in hitem up about frank white setting traps?

2.your right pac should have been angry he watched that black ashy fat greasy ugly nikka that used to sleep on the couch do what he tried for years in his first album:sas2: pac was jealous of big

3.ofcourse pac beefed with big for sales are u that much of a stan that u gonna act like suge wasnt gassin pac with that 97 octane:comeon: ... pac was a pawn in a chess game between suge and puff.. he was scared to get at the ny goonies who sonned him repeatedly so biggie and ny was the easy choice to blame to save face:heh:
 
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