Let's be real, RG3 will regress if the Skins keep playing him like this

[#1 pick]

yeah, he couldnt plant his leg. You dont know shyt about football breh, you've been exposed.


what do you want me to say? Mike Shanahan should have taken him out, or at least let Morris run the ball more.

Please not that the injuries took place on a pass that he fell on, and then he got twisted on a bad snap. NOthing to do with "playing him like this" or "running this offense."

Don't be so hard headed. I was like this as a Falcons fan with Michael Vick and learned the hard way like an idiot. Your coaches have to put you in the best situation for your career because as a player, your mindset is survive and win. You ain't thinking about ten years down the road. Look at Strasburg man. The Nats did a great job handling him. Shanny and the Skins?

 

[JLova]

Mike really messed this up. Once he saw RG3 couldn't plant, he should have put in Cousins. I just hope that they haven't messed RG3 up for good.

I think he'll be fine, but they really have to stop designing these run plays for him. I have no issue with doing em once in a while but they run dude too much and he's got a bit of a slim frame so he won't last long if they got him running all the time.

Still, the coaching staff did a great job with him this year. I just how you have a running QB with a sprained MCL and you design running plays for him.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

all successful QBs are system QBs. FOr someone who claims to know so much about the position, I figured you would know this.

Its why Peyton brought Tom Moore's offense with him to Denver.

No. System QB is usually used as an insult suggesting a QB's success is a product of the scheme they're in as opposed to their own ability. Which is exactly what he suggested about Brady in this thread.

I wouldn't take none of them over RG3 bruh.
Tom is a product of a system. You seen how great Matt Cassell looked in NE?
Tom is better than Matt Cassell anyway, but my point is put any decent but average QB in that system and they will shine

He explicitly states that he wouldn't take Brady over RG3 because Brady is a product of the system. And that any QB, including Matt Cassell would shine in their system.

Tom Brady isn't a system QB by the definition he was using. I was pointing out how it's incredibly ironic for a Skins to be trying to contribute Brady's continued success to a system (and belittle him for it) when the Skins do what they do with RG3 and their scheme. Neither is a system QB, just baffling that a Skins fan would make that argument.

 

[mastermind]

No. System QB is usually used as an insult suggesting a QB's success is a product of the scheme they're in as opposed to their own ability. Which is exactly what he suggested about Brady in this thread.

and its a misplaced and unfair insult.

Every successful QB has only played in one system.

When Joe Montana went to the Chiefs, they brought over the WCO.

Same with Favre in Minnesota.

The term "system QB" is bullshyt.

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

Why wouldn't you have a "system" behind the skills of your quarterback, it only makes sense.

I think that game really exposed how mediocre our line is, Morris and RG made our line look that much better. Even Vick became a better quarterback as time went on in the league and turned his mobility into a secondary weapon. I would like to see this w/ RG as well.

 

[mastermind]

Why wouldn't you have a "system" behind the skills of your quarterback, it only makes sense.

I think that game really exposed how mediocre our line is, Morris and RG made our line look that much better. Even Vick became a better quarterback as time went on in the league and turned his mobility into a secondary weapon. I would like to see this w/ RG as well.

people are stupid, when you realize that first and foremost then you learn to shrug off stupid comments like that.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Oh 100%, it's a damn shame too.

This gimmick offense is all the rave (wildcat anyone?) but it puts the QB in a bad position of takings hits far too often.

It's sensational to start, but it's not a long term offense. It's sad too because RG3 could be great without it, and running this offense is only going to hurt him long term.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Why wouldn't you have a "system" behind the skills of your quarterback, it only makes sense.

Because any system that requires your franchise QB takes hits on a regular basis is a dumb fukking system.

This aint college, the dudes hitting you in the NFL are the best of the best.

It's also pretty limiting to act like running the ball are RG3's only skills and an offense should be built around that. The dude is tremendously skilled as a QB, he is accurate, smart as fukk and has a great arm. Build your offense around those skills, because those are the skills that will keep him healthy and in the league the longest.

There's a reason why Brady/Manning/Brees gonna play until their 40, they keep this "system" and RG3 won't make it til 30.

 

[KnowledgeDropper]

I think the arguments about scheme and system fail to take into account how injury probe a QB is. Feel free to keep calling zone reads and designed runs for QBs like Cam Newton, Russell Wilson and even guys like Jake Locker, who look solidly built. But be careful with a guys like RGIII and even Vick, who have histories of joint and ligament injuries. Honestly RGIII looks like he gets hit worse in the pocket sometimes than he does running the ball. He fails to brace himself when he is about to get hit and his running style makes him vulnerable to weird hits when he does run.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I think the arguments about scheme and system fail to take into account how injury probe a QB is. Feel free to keep calling zone reads and designed runs for QBs like Cam Newton, Russell Wilson and even guys like Jake Locker, who look solidly built. But be careful with a guys like RGIII and even Vick, who have histories of joint and ligament injuries. Honestly RGIII looks like he gets hit worse in the pocket sometimes than he does running the ball. He fails to brace himself when he is about to get hit and his running style makes him vulnerable to weird hits when he does run.

While you have a few good points here, none of those QB;s mentioned ran the ball as much as RG3 does. They must run that read option 25-30 times a game.

 

[gho3st]

and its a misplaced and unfair insult.

Every successful QB has only played in one system.

When Joe Montana went to the Chiefs, they brought over the WCO.

Same with Favre in Minnesota.

The term "system QB" is bullshyt.

all Black QBs are system QBs



remember how Andy Reid got all the credit for "what he did" with Mcnabb. But niccas failed to mention how Reid eventually lost his job b/c he didn't have Mcnabb.

 

[Mr swag]

Hearing torn or tear in mcl

It's like 2 months or less

 

[#1 pick]

and its a misplaced and unfair insult.

Every successful QB has only played in one system.

When Joe Montana went to the Chiefs, they brought over the WCO.

Same with Favre in Minnesota.

The term "system QB" is bullshyt.

Because Montana a system QB. Favre is just to lazy at his age to learn a new offense like most older guys. They just want to produce, they ain't trying to learn anymore.

 

[mastermind]

Hearing torn or tear in mcl

It's like 2 months or less

FYI on where you got that from

https://twitter.com/HTTR24_7/status/288287236116578304


Lets hope its "just" that. Even still, I wouldnt mind dude having surgery on his knee to clear up the mess that is in there right now.

Because Montana a system QB. Favre is just to lazy at his age to learn a new offense like most older guys. They just want to produce, they ain't trying to learn anymore.

Marino was a system QB as well.

So is Peyton

So is Brady

So was Fouts

So was Kelly

and whomever else you want to name.

 

[#1 pick]

FYI on where you got that from

https://twitter.com/HTTR24_7/status/288287236116578304


Lets hope its "just" that. Even still, I wouldnt mind dude having surgery on his knee to clear up the mess that is in there right now.




Marino was a system QB as well.

So is Peyton

So is Brady

So was Fouts

So was Kelly

and whomever else you want to name.

Peyton is his own system, that's

Most QB's are system QB's. I love what Reid did for Vick. He placed him in the right system for his ability. The problem was he had no possession WR's and most of his starting OL was on the IR before the pre-season. Vick didn't have much of a chance. I still think Reid got the most out of all his QB's.