Lester Burnham was right....The Older I get the more I see his point.....

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American Beauty is one of my all time favorite movies...along with Fight Club and The Matrix

being 40 plus...you start to understand Lester's disgust at life and all the bullsh*t we buy into as adults....work....marriage...kids....suburban life ( i could make a thread on that alone)....











great movie...i highly recommend if you havent seen it
 

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:heh:the levels of sociopathic delusion a mfer has to have to think having a good and stable career, a wife and family to be a net negative

I swear Americans have no idea what the shyt end of the stick looks like boy
I go back and forth with this debate in my head. Tyler Durden's monologuing in Fight Club comes to mind.

Society wants to force you into this productive citizen box, which can be soul-crushing or whatever you want to call it. But then I look at the millenia without it; parts of the world now without it; and all the heartache that went along with that.

I just say, life is what you make it. You can go to Latin America or Southeast Asia with a digital nomad lifestyle or you can be the consummate hard-working family man or can be a bachelor c-suite exec or you can choose to operate a forklift all day and blaze up the entire time after that... life is really what you want to make it for the most part, and what we got now is way better than it was even 200 years ago.

It just gets a little boring sometimes...
 

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I go back and forth with this debate in my head. Tyler Durden's monologuing in Fight Club comes to mind.

Society wants to force you into this productive citizen box, which can be soul-crushing or whatever you want to call it. But then I look at the millenia without it; parts of the world now without it; and all the heartache that went along with that.

I just say, life is what you make it. You can go to Latin America or Southeast Asia with a digital nomad lifestyle or you can be the consummate hard-working family man or can be a bachelor c-suite exec or you can choose to operate a forklift all day and blaze up the entire time after that... life is really what you want to make it for the most part, and what we got now is way better than it was even 200 years ago.

It just gets a little boring sometimes...

I'm a blue collar breh.

give me boredom any day over dying from typhus or dysentery.
 

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I'm a blue collar breh.

give me boredom any day over dying from typhus or dysentery.
Or half your kids dying before 16, or because the king wants a new wife you suddenly gotta go to war over some p*ssy, or not having to go outside to catch some food in the middle of winter because refrigeration wasn't discovered yet.

How raw the world can be is ridiculous.

shyt is the easiest the world has ever been. Easy leads to boredom though. Those people can go be a merchant marine or some shyt.

EDIT: @StackorStarve precisely.
 

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I go back and forth with this debate in my head. Tyler Durden's monologuing in Fight Club comes to mind.

Society wants to force you into this productive citizen box, which can be soul-crushing or whatever you want to call it. But then I look at the millenia without it; parts of the world now without it; and all the heartache that went along with that.

I just say, life is what you make it. You can go to Latin America or Southeast Asia with a digital nomad lifestyle or you can be the consummate hard-working family man or can be a bachelor c-suite exec or you can choose to operate a forklift all day and blaze up the entire time after that... life is really what you want to make it for the most part, and what we got now is way better than it was even 200 years ago.

It just gets a little boring sometimes...
And the fact that you can reasonably make those choices is the blessing. Most Americans do not know real poverty and never will. There are millions of people that literally have no choice on what they can aspire to be in life, who they can marry, what they can believe in faith wise.

It doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to be disillusioned by aspects of society but having a constant woe is me mentality while living in a house/apartment with clean running water, a place to sleep, food in your fridge, and some level of entertainment is crazy. There’s just a lot of weak mfers out there that think life owes them something so they are constantly bytching about what they don’t have. They should be forced to live out in the wilderness for a year.
 
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:heh:the levels of sociopathic delusion a mfer has to have to think having a good and stable career, a wife and family to be a net negative

I swear Americans have no idea what the shyt end of the stick looks like boy
the point of the movie is and the point i was making is that men tend to settle into these ideas without EVER thinking for themselves "what is it I truly want?"

theres nothing inherently wrong with any of those things you listed...if that is in fact WHAT YOU WANT

:unimpressed:
 

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the point of the movie is and the point i was making is that men tend to settle into these ideas without EVER thinking for themselves "what is it I truly want?"

theres nothing inherently wrong with any of those things you listed...if that is in fact WHAT YOU WANT

:unimpressed:

See that type of movie is insightful to people who think about shyt for no more than five seconds

Cause that's really not that deep at all :russ:
 

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:heh:the levels of sociopathic delusion a mfer has to have to think having a good and stable career, a wife and family to be a net negative

I swear Americans have no idea what the shyt end of the stick looks like boy

It’s a very American white male paradox they themselves have created and ones bellyaching are the drones who “wake up” and realize they aren’t remarkable or special in any degree.

They just eat off of privilege and benefit of the doubt and somehow it’s not enough. So they get “bored” and you get the composing and looking for reasons to shīt on others who don’t look/act like them.
 
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And the fact that you can reasonably make those choices is the blessing. Most Americans do not know real poverty and never will. There are millions of people that literally have no choice on what they can aspire to be in life, who they can marry, what they can believe in faith wise.

It doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to be disillusioned by aspects of society but having a constant woe is me mentality while living in a house/apartment with clean running water, a place to sleep, food in your fridge, and some level of entertainment is crazy. There’s just a lot of weak mfers out there that think life owes them something so they are constantly bytching about what they don’t have. They should be forced to live out in the wilderness for a year.
i dont look at it as bytching....

theres an episode from the sopranos where melphi is telling tony that its ok to want more out of life even if all your basic needs are met....i'll see if i can find the clip
 
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