Legends of Wrestling Roundtable: History of Monday Night Raw

[Dog Based Gremlin]

No one noticed how pat Patterson said "I dont know how big Vince Mcmahon's grapefruits are cause he never ever got to touched them"




or Dok Hendrix saying how he was happy to book The Coach in a "country whipping match"

 

[K-Apps]

TNA will never reach its full potential because the casual wrestling fan(aka where the money is at) isnt interested in a newer promotion. you just cant compete with all these years of stamford brainwashing.

thats their real problem. the only way a promotion can come up and surpass the wwe's stranglehold on the mainstream is if its some super-goat chit with ridiculous amounts of money behind it.

TNA should be trying to focus getting the WCW fans that stopped watching after it closed and non-fans who aren't because of how bad WWE product is. Then, maybe they could increase viewership in a decent way.

 

[Wacky D]

^nah man. theyre fighting too much of an uphill battle thats darn near impossible to win.

they had alot of the wcw fans when they debuted. they pretty much lost that with the hogan/bischoff regime.

as far as bringing in new fans, people usually get into wrestling thru the sports entertainment aspect(wwe), and thats where hogan/bischoff came in but it just didnt work. different times. theres a whole new era of wrestling fans that dont know anything but the WWE and the brainwash machine is at an all-time high in output. the level of ignorance from the '90s/early '00s wwe fans pales in comparison to the ones coming up today.

where TNA is at after all these years is basically a win within itself.

the sad part is, TNA has clearly had a more quality product than the wwe for the better part of the 10 1/2 years that its been around. but what can they do?

Breh, the stables one was probably the 2nd worst to the tag-team one. Flair just kept going on and on about how great he thinks him and the Horsemen really were. If I remember correctly, Tazz was pretty much sucking off Flair during the entire thing asking Flair stupid ass questions feeding into Flair talking about how great he was. Flair took shots at Sid, Roma and a few others too for no good reason. Foley said something about a stable he was a part of early in his career only for Flair to say something like "that's not a real faction." I felt so bad for Foley. Foley kept it high brow and just kept it moving, hardly didn't say anything. JR seemed genuinely annoyed throughout all of this too since he couldn't get a word in since Flair just kept talking about how great the Horsemen/Evolution were or badmouthing the NWO/Hogan. JR did say the Hart Foundation was his favorite stable though

lol. the part from that stables show that made me sick was when they were cutting to a break, they zoomed in on flair cheesing his a$$ off in ectasy. that just showed how much he was shining on there and how much time they took up talking about him and his stables.

yea, i dont even think he got around to telling us what stable it was. im guessing it was skandar akbar's stable in the gwf? if so, that was a dope crew.

flair is prolly still mad at sid because he ate arn anderson's food.

 

[R=G]

When Rick Rude is mentioned on these things, how's the tone. Do they try to slight his historical value or do they give him any sort of props?

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

When Rick Rude is mentioned on these things, how's the tone. Do they try to slight his historical value or do they give him any sort of props?

JR is still salty with Rick heading back to WCW because they had a hand shake agreement that Rick didn't honor. He kept it classy though and didn't bad mouth him, but you could tell he's still annoyed.

 

[dbp]

JR is still salty with Rick heading back to WCW because they had a hand shake agreement that Rick didn't honor. He kept it classy though and didn't bad mouth him, but you could tell he's still annoyed.

I love Kevin Nash's point on the office calling it "the business". It's a business for the agents/owners, but as soon as the wrestlers started treating it like a business as well... ie: jumping ship for money, not caring about non-written agreements it's like:

How dare they!!!!

 

[NYChase718]

I love Kevin Nash's point on the office calling it "the business". It's a business for the agents/owners, but as soon as the wrestlers started treating it like a business as well... ie: jumping ship for money, not caring about non-written agreements it's like:

How dare they!!!!

what idiot would keep an aggreement if hes not locked into a contract, wen someone is giving u a bigger and better offer. its common sense. people act self righteous like if given the same opportunity they wouldnt grab at it.

 

[wake&bake]

Breh, the stables one was probably the 2nd worst to the tag-team one. Flair just kept going on and on about how great he thinks him and the Horsemen really were.

Daps for reminding me of Flair's nonsense
Flair was such a prick during that whole thing. He kept bringin up how if he was 20 years younger the Horsemen would still be on top today
Every segment turned into a 10 minute story about how Flair "lived his gimmick" ("Meet me at the Marriott!")
Worst factions were brought up and Foley commented on The Union (Him, Shamrock, Vince..) and Flair instantly shytted on him, "You're comparing them to the Horsemen?"
Anytime Tazz tried to comment on ECW, Flair was shyttin' on em. "That's not real wrestling though, chairs and thumbtacks doesn't make a tag team."
The Nature Boy kept with that ether throughout. Everyone is telling there favorite stables and Flair constantly chimes in "Really? Them? You wish you could have been a Horsemen and you know it."
By the end of the interview everyone had the going on while Flair had a combo of :cokeboy:

 

[R=G]

I wonder how that Flair one would of went if Nash was in the room

 

[dbp]

Flair is transparent as hell. He went through his insecure phase where he let Steiner and everyone shyt on him while going

Then he got his confidence back, took it waaaaaaay too far the other way and shytted on everyone left and right.

Acts like NWO was jack shyt, as if they didn't reinvigorate the business and sell a billion and one T shirts

In the highspots interview saying "Who are TNA?" all sarcastic. Few years later and he's blading for them at 60 years old for <1.0 ratings and money to pay off his 50 ex wives.

Dude was a GREAT talent... but his post 2004 behaviour was

 

[FreshAIG]

Michael Hayes turns everything he talks about into the Freebirds. No one gives a shyt about the Freebirds in 2012.

The worst ever was the tag-team round table discussion. It turned into some bullshyt with Nick Bockwinkle, Michael Hayes and Pat Patterson all claiming they were in the greatest tag-teams of all-time while saying the Road Warriors, Steiners, etc were all overrated. They had the nerve saying Bockwinkle/Ray Stevens and Pat Patterson/Ray Stevens are top 5 tag-teams of all-time. Half the documentary was about Ray Stevens. WHO THE fukk CARES ABOUT RAY STEVENS? Michael Hayes kept spewing on and on about the Freebirds like they're the best tag-team of all-time. I was watching it with a combination of the entire time.

That was by far the worst of these I've ever seen.

Nah The Crippler Ray Stevens was that nikka. Real talk.

 

[CM_Burns]

Flair on the old roundtables was pure comedy, cutting a promo the whole time. "What is TNA" with the afterwards

JR basically shyt on Rude here while pretending not to. He neglected to mention that the WWF "broke the rules" of "honor" and handshake agreements the night before with one of Rude's friends if the Montreal Screwjob was a shoot.

This was entertaining even with the usual WCW bashing and revision. It lets you know how much money the attitude era was generating when Road Dogg made 7 figures in 98 or 99.

 

[Wacky D]

yup. then flair ended up in TNA not long afterwards.

 

[puppetmaster]

Breh, the stables one was probably the 2nd worst to the tag-team one. Flair just kept going on and on about how great he thinks him and the Horsemen really were. If I remember correctly, Tazz was pretty much sucking off Flair during the entire thing asking Flair stupid ass questions feeding into Flair talking about how great he was. Flair took shots at Sid, Roma and a few others too for no good reason. Foley said something about a stable he was a part of early in his career only for Flair to say something like "that's not a real faction." I felt so bad for Foley. Foley kept it high brow and just kept it moving, hardly didn't say anything. JR seemed genuinely annoyed throughout all of this too since he couldn't get a word in since Flair just kept talking about how great the Horsemen/Evolution were or badmouthing the NWO/Hogan. JR did say the Hart Foundation was his favorite stable though

That EP made me kinda sad seeing Ric Flair become the bitter critchety angry old wrestler. Dude just sounded like a walking ad for this smiley




-P-

 

[DoubleJ13]

at Charles Barkly paying for for Lawlers 3rd wedding. That is the most random shyt of all time.

at the Road Dogg making 7 figures. at what Austin must have made a year if Road Dogg could make 7 figures.