Lebron's opponents in the Finals >>>>>> Jordan's opponents in the Finals

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And you do know the last all star game Ray Allen played in was in 2010, before playing with Bron, right?

nikka mentioned ray Allen like he was still an all star when he joined LBJ
We had someone mention the all star games Rashard Lewis made as a means of propping his supporting cast up while ignoring that Lewis was entirely washed at that stage of his career :heh:
 
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Men Lie, women lie, numbers don't.
I mean, all this does is make what he did in 2013 look WAY better, and makes what he did in 2011 look WAY worse. How that factors against MJ is meh...

LBJ has with less, and has done less with more....

:manny:

In the end, both players had to face who was in front of them, and while LBJ went through a gauntlet of opponents in the finals, not every opponent he lost to was better than every opponent MJ beat in the finals. I don't know if MJ could've done against GS, what LBJ, but I can't fathom MJ underachieving as much as LBJ did in 2011. Even if half the teams MJ faced were worse than half the teams LBJ faced, MJ still went 3-0. Even if only 2 of the 6 teams MJ faced were better than LBJ's 6, MJ still went 2-0 against them and so-on. And never went more than 6 games.
 

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And the Celtics didn't? Those old nikkas were taken to a game 7 by PHILLY got blown off the court by the KNICKS :heh:

But nikkas in here swear those Celtic teams are proof of LeBron facing tough competition :heh:
By your same standard the 2008 celtics sucked since they got pushed to 7 games in the first and second round :comeon:
 

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The east right now and the last few years may be the weakest conference in sports history forget just the nba. Those Knicks teams would've won multiple rings in this era. Those Knicks teams beat both the Mavs and Thunder that Lebron faced.

You must be 15. Those Knick teams were not talented. John Starks was their second best player.:scust: They would get washed in this era.
 

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Not even the biggest Lebron fan, but the facts are there


Bulls opponents in the Finals

1991 - Lackluster, aging Lakers team. Magic Johnson on his last legs, Kareem retired already, James Worthy and Byron Scott injured for most of the series

1992 - Trailblazers were a good team

1993 - Basically Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, and nobodies

1996 - Sonics were a good team

1997 - Jazz were above average at best, and predictable offense

1998 - Jazz again



Cavaliers opponents in the Finals


2007 - Spurs, all time team

2011 - Mavericks were a good team, Lebron chocked, no excuse there

2012 - Thunder, great young team

2013 - Spurs, all time team

2014 - Spurs again

2015 - Warriors, all time team

2016 - 73-9, all time team, came back from 3-1 to win



You can even say that Magic, Bird, and Isiah Thomas' teams they faced in the Finals were better too. You can talk about Jordan's 6-0 Finals record, but look who he was facing though :manny:
lmao @ thunder being great but the teams jordans faced were just good stfu dumb ass nikka
 

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No they didn't :mjlol:

Stop with the namedropping my god :snoop:

They ranked 18th in opponents points per game and 17th in opponents FG% you are not winning a title with that defense.
so they got there how :mjpls:
 
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