Learning about “Gas Giants” is one of the most disappointing things growing up

[ExodusNirvana]

The key is the spice

We'll be long gone by the time the Butlerian Jihad takes place but once we find the spice, humanity will be able to venture out into the universe so we won't die off

 

[daemonova]

Oh it’s frightening to think about how primitive things are here how ideologies literally get in the way of any kind of real advancement to even come up with a viable way off the planet that happens on a regular basis.

It will literally take another species from elsewhere to be a factor — just like it went down in Star Trek. Vulcans waited for humans to get their shĩt together and observed earth from space just to see if humans could build quality engines.

That was their way to determine if a species was smart enough to handle what was in the “community” of space

in Mass Effect, humans found ruins of an extinct civilization on Mars, that help them with faster than light travel, which led to a fight with a species in another part of the galaxy that still existed.

They called the conflict the First Contact War.

 

[Lord_nikon]

Yeah, that shyt dried me out years ago, I thought Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune had surfaces,,

I use to have dream about planet as kid

 

[CarltonJunior]

Yeah, that shyt dried me out years ago, I thought Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune had surfaces,,

I use to have dream about planet as kid

They have moons that do have usable surfaces though

 

[Lord_nikon]

They have moons that do have usable surfaces though

Yeah, i didnt know then

 

[CopiousX]

we should have a major liveable space colony by now.


In order for all that to happen it would have went down like the show “For All Mankind” where something forced all the world governments to keep dumping s bunch of money into space travel and mining.

Best version ive seen is to ditch the idea of sending humans entirely , and instead just send drones with dna instructions and proteins. It reduces the costs by many orders of magnitude.

The idea is to have humans born on site on another star system from synthesized genetic information of existing humans from earth. There is a variation on this where frozen eggs and sperms cells are sent , instead of raw proteins. Upon arrival robotics and AI units would use local materials to create a habitable environment. Once the environment is built on site, the gentic information is synthesized (or sperm and eggs are combined to become embryo). Parenting would be the domain of AI with minor input from earth at 4yr intervals due to light lag.


Barring the ethical constraints, this method works because its very easy to accelerate a craft to at least 10 percent of lightspeed if humans arent onboard, requiring sustenance, radiation shielding, etc. this wouldnt require any exotic material for the hull or special thrusting mechanisms. And the acceleration could very easily be achieved using solar sails or photon bombardment from earth. In fact, Von Brauns nuclear-plate propulsion system from the 70s is still the most cost effective and very applicable here particularly for slowing down.


At that rate you could have the essential human ingredients on alpha centauri in slightly more than 45 years. Any random moon or asteroid in the star system would have enough material to build. If you wanted to populate the Galaxy, you would repeat the process for the next star system. But you would start from alpha centauri, instead of earth.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

And all the planets they claim to be the most habitable with potential for life are millions of light years away in different solar systems or even other galaxies

They telling us about a “earth-like” planet that we gotta go through two theoretical wormholes to reach

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Oh it’s frightening to think about how primitive things are here how ideologies literally get in the way of any kind of real advancement to even come up with a viable way off the planet that happens on a regular basis.

It will literally take another species from elsewhere to be a factor — just like it went down in Star Trek. Vulcans waited for humans to get their shĩt together and observed earth from space just to see if humans could build quality engines.

That was their way to determine if a species was smart enough to handle what was in the “community” of space

I was just about to say this

basically we’re waiting for more intelligent life to come here and give us the blueprint pretty much. Even then, why would they bother, nikkas here are mad ignorant.

 

[CarltonJunior]

Best version ive seen is to ditch the idea of sending humans entirely , and instead just send drones with dna instructions and proteins. It reduces the costs by many orders of magnitude.

The idea is to have humans born on site on another star system from synthesized genetic information of existing humans from earth. There is a variation on this where frozen eggs and sperms cells are sent , instead of raw proteins. Upon arrival robotics and AI units would use local materials to create a habitable environment. Once the environment is built on site, the gentic information is synthesized (or sperm and eggs are combined to become embryo). Parenting would be the domain of AI with minor input from earth at 4yr intervals due to light lag.


Barring the ethical constraints, this method works because its very easy to accelerate a craft to at least 10 percent of lightspeed if humans arent onboard, requiring sustenance, radiation shielding, etc. this wouldnt require any exotic material for the hull or special thrusting mechanisms. And the acceleration could very easily be achieved using solar sails or photon bombardment from earth. In fact, Von Brauns nuclear-plate propulsion system from the 70s is still the most cost effective and very applicable here particularly for slowing down.


At that rate you could have the essential human ingredients on alpha centauri in slightly more than 45 years. Any random moon or asteroid in the star system would have enough material to build. If you wanted to populate the Galaxy, you would repeat the process for the next star system. But you would start from alpha centauri, instead of earth.

Building a colony consisting of only fake, scientifically created humans sounds like a horror film

Absolutely not make that shyt livable via drones and then have humans make the trip

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Best version ive seen is to ditch the idea of sending humans entirely , and instead just send drones with dna instructions and proteins. It reduces the costs by many orders of magnitude.

The idea is to have humans born on site on another star system from synthesized genetic information of existing humans from earth. There is a variation on this where frozen eggs and sperms cells are sent , instead of raw proteins. Upon arrival robotics and AI units would use local materials to create a habitable environment. Once the environment is built on site, the gentic information is synthesized (or sperm and eggs are combined to become embryo). Parenting would be the domain of AI with minor input from earth at 4yr intervals due to light lag.


Barring the ethical constraints, this method works because its very easy to accelerate a craft to at least 10 percent of lightspeed if humans arent onboard, requiring sustenance, radiation shielding, etc. this wouldnt require any exotic material for the hull or special thrusting mechanisms. And the acceleration could very easily be achieved using solar sails or photon bombardment from earth. In fact, Von Brauns nuclear-plate propulsion system from the 70s is still the most cost effective and very applicable here particularly for slowing down.


At that rate you could have the essential human ingredients on alpha centauri in slightly more than 45 years. Any random moon or asteroid in the star system would have enough material to build. If you wanted to populate the Galaxy, you would repeat the process for the next star system. But you would start from alpha centauri, instead of earth.

Yeah, I’ve seen this theory before, odds are it would end up being some last ditch effort to preserve our species. I don’t think you can just transport humans from one end of space to the other. There’s too many variables in space, even just the idea that we lose bone density over time in low gravity. You would need a constant spinning structure for years.

you would also need to be able to mine asteroids for fuel.

 

[daemonova]

Building a colony consisting of only fake, scientifically created humans sounds like a horror film

Absolutely not make that shyt livable via drones and then have humans make the trip

Raised by wolves @Bryan Danielson

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

@kp404 it was just a joke but I respect the neg

 

[CopiousX]

Building a colony consisting of only fake, scientifically created humans sounds like a horror film

Absolutely not make that shyt livable via drones and then have humans make the trip

I agree with a lot of the other posters on here that humanity as a species won't be able to agree long enough to send people that far outside of the solar system. We cooperate as well as oil and water. Those drones would be stuck building a habitat for absentee landlords.



I mean we've got a whole thread on the front page of TLR about biden launching the chips act to promote scientific advancement, only for Trump to come 2 years later to tear it apart. How can you work like this?



At least not in Democratic countries. This is one of the reasons China has a huge advantage when it comes to scientific progress. Xi can just wake up one day and decide that the country will spend the next 20 years developing ABC technology and All the idiots in the society don't get to have a voice in the matter.

 

[CarltonJunior]

I agree with a lot of the other posters on here that humanity as a species won't be able to agree long enough to send people that far outside of the solar system. We cooperate as well as oil and water.


I mean we've got a whole thread on the front page of TLR about biden launching the chips act to promote scientific advancement, only for Trump to come 2 years later to tear it apart.



At least not the Democratic countries. This is one of the reasons China has a huge advantage when it comes to scientific progress. Xi can just wake up one day and decide that the country will spend the next 20 years developing ABC technology and All the idiots in the society don't get to have a voice in the matter.

Well

A. Wed make stops along the way. We wouldnt go to jupiter without already establishing something in mars, or mercury without venus, etc.

B. In your plan, I think those humans would see themselves as another race entirely. Those nikkas wouldnt fukk with us. You really should delete that and write a book about this, thats a million dollar idea. but hell no we should never do that

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Raised by wolves @Bryan Danielson

I forgot all about that show