Decades too late Kerry. 3 Apartheid States - U.S. during the Black Codes and Jim Crow era, South-Africa and Israel. You see why they supported each other for a long time.
Leaked audio: John Kerry Warns Israel Could Become ‘An Apartheid State’ (UPDATE: Kerry apologizes)
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What Kerry is getting at for those that don't understand what he is saying is actually Israel's worst fear and why they have never accepted and absolute right to return as part of a two state solution. What he is saying is that without a two-state solution, either Israel will have to suppress its Palestinian population to hold them down or you will have a state in which Jews are no longer the majority (Palestinians have a higher birthrate, etc....which is why the right to return scares Israel) and Palestinians would control the Knesset which would lead to the end of the "Jewish" state. This is why J Street, the leftist Jewish lobby is backing him and has always backed a two-state solution.
I think many of us here understand where Kerry is coming from. Neither him or Israel care for the Palestinian issue, neither care for a peace process and neither care for a 2 state solution. This is the same man giving weapons to known terrorists to over throw a government in Syria, so Israel can expand it's lands and influence. What Israel is scared of is continuing to show a image to Americans that they are a "Democracy of the Middle East" when they have a high unemployment rate, employment is scarce, massive sex and drug trafficking with massive amount of addicts, violent crimes against immigrants and African Jews, treats their Arab Israeli citizens like 2nd class, and a unlimited amount of money spent on forcing Palestinians and Bedouins off-land and building settlements. Settlements mind you that are gradually so expensive, even the settlers can't afford it.
Julius Skrrvin
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/29/w...-remark-that-israel-risks-apartheid.html?_r=0
Kerry Expresses Regret After Apartheid Remark
Kerry Expresses Regret After Apartheid Remark
- John Kerry issued an unusual statement Monday evening expressing his support for Israel after a controversy erupted over a politically charged phrase he used in a private appearance.
Speaking to a closed-door meeting of the Trilateral Commission last week, Mr. Kerry said that if a Middle East peace agreement was not achieved, Israel risked becoming an “apartheid state,” according to an article in The Daily Beast, an online publication. The comments were noted in the Israeli news media and were severely criticized by some American Jewish organizations.
“Any suggestion that Israel is, or is at risk of becoming, an apartheid state is offensive and inappropriate,” the American Israel Public Affairs Committee said. “Israel is the lone stable democracy in the Middle East, protects the rights of minorities regardless of ethnicity or religion.”
Republican lawmakers were also critical. Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican and possible presidential contender, said Mr. Kerry’s comments were “outrageous and disappointing.”
During his push for a comprehensive peace agreement, Mr. Kerry has repeatedly warned that Israel could face economic pressure from European nations as well as Palestinian violence and a demographic time bomb at home — meaning Jews could become a minority in Israel and the territories they control — if Israel did not negotiate an agreement that led to an independent Palestinian state.
His recent comments came at a particularly sensitive moment with the peace talks put off, after Israel’s decision to suspend negotiations because of the Palestine Liberation Organization’s announcement of its reconciliation with Hamas, the Islamic militant group that governs Gaza.
In the statement that Mr. Kerry issued Monday, which bore the title “On Support for Israel,” he said that he had been a staunch supporter of Israel during his years as a senator and had spent many hours since working with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials.
“For more than 30 years in the United States Senate, I didn’t just speak words in support of Israel,” Mr. Kerry said in his statement. “I walked the walk when it came time to vote and when it came time to fight.”
Mr. Kerry added that he did not believe that Israel was an “apartheid state” or intended to become one. Mr. Kerry did not dispute he had used the phrase but said it had led to a “misimpression” about his views.
“If I could rewind the tape, I would have chosen a different word to describe my firm belief that the only way in the long term to have a Jewish state and two nations and two peoples living side by side in peace and security is through a two state solution,” he said.
“In the long term, a unitary, binational state cannot be the democratic Jewish state that Israel deserves or the prosperous state with full rights that the Palestinian people deserve,” he added.
J Street, a pro-peace Jewish organization, defended Mr. Kerry. “Instead of putting energy into attacking Secretary Kerry, those who are upset with the secretary’s use of the term should put their energy into opposing and changing the policies that are leading Israel down this road,” it said in a statement.
But Aaron David Miller, a former American peace negotiator now at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, said that Mr. Kerry’s comment had drawn him into an “unproductive fight with a close ally.”
“Baker and Kissinger used tough language when they thought they would not only be able to make a point, but would be able to make a difference,” Mr. Miller said of James A. Baker III and Henry A. Kissinger, both former secretaries of state. “But Kerry’s closed-door comment was ill timed, ill advised and unwise.”
88m3
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It's absurd to act like Palestinians are a blameless party in this situation. At the end of the day the Palestinian people are responsible for their future no one else.
By the winter of 1947 the year the British pulled out of Palestine, Palestinians were attacking Jews and were defeated. The following year the Arab-Israeli war broke out with Israel fighting off enemies from all sides to protect their land and is was a major reason why we see the borders of Israel at where they are today.
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Entropy Fan
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That could be said of any oppressed group. Will you say that about native americans?? Black Americans? Aborigines??
Get invaded by evil cacs and get blamed for your own oppression brehs
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Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
pop shyt apologize brehsKerry with the Tel Aviv two step dance brehs
88m3
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I think you should put your strawmen away. No one has been allowed the freedoms and opportunities that the Palestinians have in history.
When you commit terrorist across the world, try to exterminate a people, and sabotage every peace process, there is something to be said.
That blame falls on Palestine, it's leaders, and it's people.
Entropy Fan
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Hilarious..........
Israeli minister warns of Palestinian 'holocaust' | World news | theguardian.com
Isreali leaders threatening to holocaust Palestinians. After blockading and starving them. You are a disgusting evil khazar. They got soooo much freedom settlers steal all their water supplies and land. And they got walls and blockades and checkpoints. Freedom must mean slavery to you
Steal land continuously and pretend to be interested in a peace process brehs
88m3
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MVike28
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Entropy Fan
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keep trolling. you aint influencing anyone or shaping anyones opinions with that bs. I got you hysterical, you just dropped character