lazar angelov is basically aesthetically perfect

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:patrice: I agree with you as far as the high percentage of users is concerned but the 22+ thing is a little silly. You can make significant gains in your 20's, even if you've never lifted before (actually more so). Your test levels are still pretty much as high as they'll ever be (or they should be unless you have extremely subpar genetics).:patrice:

if you dont have west african blood you more or less have "subpar" genetics
 

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:manny: Black genetics ftw, I guess. Still, you should be able to make significant gains past the age of 22, even if you've never lifted before.

depends how you define significant

2-4lbs a month with no training? :manny:

10-15lbs a month with no training? :cheff:

and the average cycle has a user on 10x as much testosterone than naturally produced at "peak" years
 

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depends how you define significant

2-4lbs a month with no training? :manny:

10-15lbs a month with no training? :cheff:

and the average cycle has a user on 10x as much testosterone than naturally produced at "peak" years

In that case, the age thing isn't even the question. You couldn't do that much muscle in a month even if you were in the middle of a growth spurt as a teen.
 

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95%+

but even then :manny: its so rampant in professional bodybuilding(physique too) that im just like :ehh: with it

I feel that's a strong exaggeration


Let's not get on the whole "I think everyone's on steroids because I read a lot about them so I spot it in everyone" trip. I see :flabbynsick: looking dudes bullshytting around in the gym pointing at random people thinking they're on something (including me) so I see how this goes.

95%? No fukking way, not even professional bodybuilding is it quite that high when you consider the natural shows.
 

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U can honestly look like Lazar naturally if u dedicate urself in the gym for years lol.....his physique isn't unreachable for people with good genetics
 
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Great physique, damn near flawless but I dont think he is Natty but still not taking anything away from him. He still has to diet and dedicate a lot of time to stay like that!
 

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PAT BARRY IS
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he's not natty either lol.... pretty much if anyone who makes money off how they look / perform then they are on drugs.. :wow: .. drug use is rampant as fukk

Really? I always figured he was natural because he isn't that big at all. Dde is barely in the 170s lol...
 

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I feel that's a strong exaggeration


Let's not get on the whole "I think everyone's on steroids because I read a lot about them so I spot it in everyone" trip. I see :flabbynsick: looking dudes bullshytting around in the gym pointing at random people thinking they're on something (including me) so I see how this goes.

95%? No fukking way, not even professional bodybuilding is it quite that high when you consider the natural shows.

wish i was joking. but cycling isnt quite as unusual as you think...especially given how long its been going on(since 1960s basically)

In that case, the age thing isn't even the question. You couldn't do that much muscle in a month even if you were in the middle of a growth spurt as a teen.

youd be shocked how effective cycles are the first go round

you make ~50mg of testosterone a week roughly. these guys inject anywhere near 500-1000mg :shaq:
 

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wish i was joking. but cycling isnt quite as unusual as you think...especially given how long its been going on(since 1960s basically)



youd be shocked how effective cycles are the first go round

you make ~50mg of testosterone a week roughly. these guys inject anywhere near 500-1000mg :shaq:

Bruh hook me up with a plan on how to ride a bike :yes:
 
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