LaVar Ball: "Can't Win A Championship With 3 White Guys"

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I'm saying though, you can't pretend that if any of the races were switched to any other race in the same context, this would still be some bigotry.

A black guy saying you can't win with 3 hispanics - Bigot

A white guy saying you can't win with 3 blacks - bigot

Etc etc etc


No a white cannot make the same statement,when youve controlled america and given urself the advantage for hundreds of years it allows for these type of statements....there is no equivalency.
 

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Ah, get off that bullshyt, no one had Kawhi as a top-20 player back in 2014. He averaged 12.8ppg that year and hardly handled the ball. I mean, damn, he didn't even play 2000 minutes that season - there were 137 guys in the NBA that played more minutes that Kawhi that year.

And Duncan was arguably the best player on the team, but he was NOT a superstar.

The fact that that team was so dominant PROVES my point. No way in hell you're calling 37-year-old Duncan, 31-years-and-fading TP, or 22-years-and-raw Kawhi NBA "superstars". Yet they were a dominant team. Because the bench was so damn stacked with Belinelli, Green, Splittler, Diaw, and 36-year-old Ginobli? Come on now. You have to admit that the ensemble cast system can work, and can even work dominantly.





They had a 15-point lead in the 4th quarter of Game 7. Have two more shots fall or two more calls go their way and they win that game. So obviously they COULD have beaten the Lakers, it just didn't happen.

Three teams built that way had a strong shot at a title in the last 17 years, and two of those three won it. That proves that it's a viable strategy. Yes, it's easier to have superstars, but without a superstar you can still win. For instance, let's say things worked out differently in Golden State, and they never got Durant and had a non-superstar point guard like Mike Conley instead of Curry. A Conley-Klay-Barnes-Draymond-Bogut Warriors team with Iggy/Ezeli/Livingston off the bench would still be a title threat. You can still win that way. Utah could put together a threatening team like that.
No one played more than 30 mins per game. Leonard had a +9.3 on the court and outproduce his opponent +7.1.
Manu +9.0 and outproduced his opponent +13.0
Duncan +7.5 and OPP of 6.7
Parker +4.0 and OPP +6.6
In comparison to other superstar of that season:

Durant MVP- +20.0 and a OPP of +7.8
James +19.1 and a OPP of +6.8
Curry +11.7 and a OPP of +9.7
Harden +12.9 and a OPP of +7.0

In reality, this team had an elite bench and starting unit. Manu who played with both majority of the time has the highest +/-. This team was elite and no, they are not on the same level with teams like Detroit or Portland, especially not Detroit. One of the all time great teams. So many different stats reign praise to this team.

As for Portland, they still lost because they did NOT Have a superstar. You wrote two paragraphs and the facts remain the same.
 

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The 2014 Spurs had no SUPERSTARS.

That's why they called their game the beautiful game. :wow:
They had superstars via the analytics, Detroit did not. They had an elite squad via the data. Detroit did not. Detroit is a team who did it without elite players, San Antonio had elite players. Detroit will always be the model for winning a title without a superstar. It's the team that teams like Atlanta wanted to be. San Antonio had superstars, no one confuses one from the other.
 
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wait a minute Lavar is unnecessarily stereotyping black kids as being good at sports when not all of them are. The ones most hungry, with strong internal and external motivations ( being broke, single parent, aau to ncaa pipeline, having an invested parent, being focused, etc will push through), while the others become benchwarmers and third string defense/offense players


my kid is still going to league whether he likes it or not though:mjgrin:
 

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I'm saying though, you can't pretend that if any of the races were switched to any other race in the same context, this would still be some bigotry.

A black guy saying you can't win with 3 hispanics - Bigot

A white guy saying you can't win with 3 blacks - bigot

Etc etc etc

:gucci:
 

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This would be alright if those three white dudes weren't carrying the fukk out of Lonzo while he was getting cooked by Fox and being passive
Yeah if Lonzo had 25 pts and no one else showed up, there wouldn't be much argument to what Lavar said. But if you didn't know who made the quote, you'd think Lonzo was one of the white boys getting ripped.
 

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This is more truthful than saying what he is saying lacks merit. What he is saying has merit regardless if you like it or not. But his reasoning is the question. It comes off as excuses. The bottom line was that uptempo pace and offense was no where to be found v. Kentucky.
There is no merit to that dumb ass shyt.

Even if foot speed was tied to genes


You don't know anything about a person genes by the color of their skin.

Doesn't work like that

And even if it did work like that, his kid has more "white" genes than "black":francis:

It was a total idiotic statement and an attempt to shift blame from his son.
 
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