"Latinx" and "Defund the Police" Are Driving Latinos to the G.O.P.

[Voice of Reason]

What’s the point of keeping babies to be borne into poverty and/or put in the system? Black people need to worry about economic mobility before abortion rates

We aren't the Joos, we don't have the capital to run shyt right now.

Unless we get reparations our current best play is to let our numbers grow naturally and to do what Charles Blow recommended.


Reverse Migrate to the South and control a few states.

 

[O.Red]

Latinos have always culturally leaned right its amazing that everyone refuses to ever acknowledge this

 

[Professor Emeritus]

We aren't the Joos, we don't have the capital to run shyt right now.

Unless we get reparations our current best play is to let our numbers grow naturally and to do what Charles Blow recommended.


Reverse Migrate to the South and control a few states.

No joke as much shyt as I talk about the South I'm seriously considering moving next year for this exact reason.


Louisiana
Mississippi
Alabama
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina


Can all be in play. The big issue is that most of those are run by far-right racist shytheads right now and it would take a lot of migration to change the equation. I dunno if I want to live in that situation in the meantime. But Georgia/North Carolina could be in Black hands fairly quickly with just a small demographic shift. Don't even need a majority, just need to be a majority of the Democrats and have a democratic majority, which those two states are 3-4% away from having. Hell, they'd probably have it already if not for voter suppression, so once you get Black/Dem control and get voting access moving in Black districts again it's gonna be a wrap.

 

[Mook]

Look at what he's done in the thread so far:

#23: I point out that "latinx" hasn't been a focus of dems at all

#24: @the cac mamba derails the entire thread topic by lying and claiming the democrats are focused on pronouns and trans issues

#25: I point out to him that Republicans are far more focused on those issues than dems are

#30: @the cac mamba purposely misreads my comment asking, "So you think they're right on the issue?" and continues to focus on it

#31: @chico25 points out that he missed the point entirely

#32: @the cac mamba doubles down

#35: I point out that his response had nothing to do with what I said and he's just deflecting

#59: @the cac mamba ignores everything preceding and makes an incredibly stupid claim about gas prices

#60: I point out how his approach would be completely ignorant, counterproductive, and harmful

#61: @the cac mamba doubles down without even acknowledging my criticisms

#62: I ask if he even read the criticism

#63: @the cac mamba admits having not read it

#64: I pointed out that I write for the benefit of readers and that he's engaged in bad faith posting

#65: @the cac mamba makes false global attacks and demands I answer his question while continuing to ignore the response I already gave

#66: I ask him to address what's already been said first before I respond to new demands

#67: @the cac mamba states that he will once I agree that dems don't "follow the science" on trans issues

#68: I immediate agree and put the ball back in his court

#74: @the cac mamba completely ignores me and response to @TheDarceKnight doubling down on his trans derailment again



Why does he even post in HL, other than to troll and derail threads? Why is he allowed to? Since this thread has started all he's done is lie, derail, and make constant demands of others while refusing to engage with their responses. Every time someone responds to his bullshyt derailments, he ignores their response and just deflects to more bullshyt. What is he adding to the community at all? He's the very definition of a troll.

guy has managed to be a worse poster than napoleon.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

We aren't the Joos, we don't have the capital to run shyt right now.

Unless we get reparations our current best play is to let our numbers grow naturally and to do what Charles Blow recommended.


Reverse Migrate to the South and control a few states.

Black people have highly concentrated populations in the south and haven’t managed to control anything, not since Jim Crow came through and crushed the reconstruction buildings. furthermore there are fewer economic opportunities down south outside of ATL, Dallas, Houston, Charlotte and Raleigh. this sounds like ignorantly hopeful, backward ass thinking.

And no one said we need the capital to run shyt, we simply need to be in better economic situations before I ever argue that we need to breed more kids into poverty, especially since the poor do not have a political voice in this country. More poor black people doesn’t = more black political capital

 

[Voice of Reason]

Black people have highly concentrated populations in the south and haven’t managed to control anything, not since Jim Crow came through and crushed the reconstruction buildings. furthermore there are fewer economic opportunities down south outside of ATL, Dallas, Houston, Charlotte and Raleigh. this sounds like ignorantly hopeful, backward ass thinking.

And no one said we need the capital to run shyt, we simply need to be in better economic situations before I ever argue that we need to breed more kids into poverty, especially since the poor do not have a political voice in this country. More poor black people doesn’t = more black political capital

When have black folks controlled any states?



And how has abortion alleviated poverty for black people.



Please provide one stat that suggest that mass abortion has alleviated poverty or increased prosperity for black people.



Again I'm not against abortion.


I'm against abortions at the astronomical rates we see in our community.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

When have black folks controlled any states?



And how has abortion alleviated poverty for black people.



Please provide one stat that suggest that mass abortion has alleviated poverty or increased prosperity for black people.



Again I'm not against abortion.


I'm against abortions at the astronomical rates we see in our community.

No where did I say it alleviated poverty? but having more kids in poverty 100% doesn’t alleviate it

and you can feel free to be against the high rate of abortion but equating lowering the rate to add more people and thus more political power is not how that would work.

 

[Voice of Reason]

No where did I say it alleviated poverty? but having more kids in poverty 100% doesn’t alleviate it

and you can feel free to be against the high rate of abortion but equating lowering the adding more people and thus more political power is hot how that would work.

Honestly I'm not trying to be obtuse I just want to see evidence that mass abortions is beneficial to Black Americans in the aggregate.


I know abortion is a personal choice put I do think political forces do push black folks in that direction for various reasons.


And to your point about increasing the number of poor people not equaling more political power I would need to see evidence to back up that claim.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Honestly I'm not trying to be obtuse I just want to see evidence that mass abortions is beneficial to Black Americans in the aggregate.


I know abortion is a personal choice put I do think political forces do push black folks in that direction for various reasons.


And to your point about increasing the number of poor people not equaling more political power I would need to see evidence to back up that claim.

Um, evidence is all the policies aimed at helping the lower classes not passing - evidence can be found in exit polls and voter participation rates…

And you are being obtuse, no one is making an empirical argument the abortion improves anything, there is empirical evidence that many of these kids would be born into poverty, poverty is generational, especially for black Americans, and therefore there is nothing gained by adding more people into poverty and the systemic racism that has an enhanced outward effect on poor black people.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Um, evidence is all the policies aimed at helping the lower classes not passing - evidence can be found in exit polls and voter participation rates…

And you are being obtuse, no one is making an empirical argument the abortion improves anything, there is empirical evidence that many of these kids would be born into poverty, poverty is generationally, especially for black Americans, and therefore there is nothing gained by adding more people into poverty and the systemic racism that has an enhanced outward effect on poor black people.

This is where we fundamentally disagree. I don't think voluntarily reducing our population is automatically a good thing because we are more likely to be born into poverty. Within the current political system number are power. I understand that conservative cacs are trying to secure minority rule and disenfranchise black folks I just disagree with the notion that less black folks somehow is a good thing.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This is where we fundamentally disagree. I don't think voluntarily reducing our population is automatically a good thing because we are more likely to be born into poverty. Within the current political system number are power. I understand that conservative cacs are trying to secure minority rule and disenfranchise black folks I just disagree with the notion that less black folks somehow is a good thing.

I didn’t say fewer black people is a good thing, saying more poor blacks = a bad thing does not mean fewer black people is a good thing. This is where you keep jumping to one opinion equaling the opposite opinion.

 

[chico25]

but you have to ask yourself...why does it work

as a moderate democrat, who thinks moderate democrats should win every election in the future of this country, i hate watching democrats get in their own way with this weird bullshyt from the far left. its embarrassing and hinders the party

of course a few trannies playing womens sports isnt a real issue facing america. so why not just side with real women, and tell these idiots theyre on their own

lyft is now forcing all drivers to list their pronouns, for the sake of a few people who would be "misgendered" the pandering has got to stop

It works because it doesn't matter what democrats say about the issue. If they agree with Republicans they don't gain points with republican voters they just lose points with their voters that care about that issue and republican politicians will still say that they are for the opposite.

Remember how people like you said that we had to pick Biden in the primary because Republicans would attack Bernie as a socialist. Voters did that and Biden is being attacked as a socialist to this day.

Lastly, your example of what democrats are focusing on is a private company choosing to do something that has nothing to do with democrats. They are already so associated with LGBT rights that anything happening related to that is assumed to be because of them. No amount of agreement with Republicans will change that perception and will only hurt them with part of their base.

 

[dblive]

terrible, shill posting

biden has NOT gotten in front of the american people and said "gas prices are a crisis. american energy, tell me what you need from me to bring gas prices down, and ill do it"

immediately puts the ball in their court, and blunts republican attacks

but you have no solution to bring gas down, and no political solution to deflect the blame. so enjoy eating shyt on this fukkin gas is over 5 bucks where im at. guess whos getting blamed in november?

Needs to double, triple down on clean energy and electric vehicles. Most young people want it.

 

[Cole Cash]

LatinX doesnt mean a fukking thing to most people, these articles largely are based on hot takes and twitter. what a load of shyt.

 

[AZBeauty]

"Defund the police" was always a terrible slogan even though the idea behind was good. It was too easy to take literally and defeat its purpose without even adressing the issue at play.

I didnt like the slogan mainly because Americans are stupid.