LATimes: Cost of undocumented healthcare in California is billions over estimates, pressuring Democrats to consider cuts 🤦‍♂️

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It's funny how when you're a citizen, you get told practically to fukk off without insurance

But somehow or other illegals get treatment 🤔

This is what we're talking about when we say they get benefits and better treatment than Americans

Wherever their home country is, a monthly migrant total cost for immunizations and whatnot should be billed back from the states
 
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they shouldn’t access ANY of these services. Why is this so complicated?

Well, if cali can’t handle or figure this out…whats your solution? You have my answer.

Your answer seems to be willing to call me a republican and hoping that scares me out of pressing you for a direct answer :stopitslime:
First, you lied by trying to claim they get the same resources when they don't, even though they pay into the system. They contribute billions in taxes but have limited access to most public services, so simply saying "no services," isn't going to work.

Second, did you even read the article you keep spamming? According to the Democrats cited, they are suggesting several workable solutions that don't require cutting them off entirely. For instance, they suggest expanding preventative care and community clinics, which would lower overall healthcare costs, and help both undocumented immigrants and citizens. They suggest private funding to reduce the burden on state taxpayers. They also talk about exploring ways to create a pathway for more sustainable contributions, like extending work permits or creating a sliding scale for healthcare costs, based on income. My personal solution lies in a more progressive tax system.

Finally, the situation isn't as simple as cutting services. These things require more thought than just "throw 'em out." They reject this thinking and pledge to continue supporting the system, so you're just going to have to come to terms with it. And I didn't call you a Republican, but if the shoe fits.


It's funny how when you're a citizen, you get told practically to fukk off without insurance

But somehow or other illegals get treatment
🤔


This is what we're talking about when we say they get benefits and better treatment than Americans

Wherever their home country is, a monthly migrant total cost for immunizations and whatnot should be billed back from the states
This isn't true. Undocumented immigrants don't qualify for federal healthcare programs like Medicaid, Medicare, or ACA subsidies. The only care they can legally receive is emergency treatment (which everyone gets under federal law) or limited state-funded programs in a few places like California.

The claim that they get better treatment or special benefits compared to Americans is just false. They're largely ineligible for federal aid programs like food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, and Social Security. The few state or local programs that help them also serve low-income citizens. If the system feels unfair, it's not because immigrants are getting more, it's because support for citizens has been deliberately cut thanks to awful policy choices.
 
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First, you lied by trying to claim they get the same resources when they don't, even though they pay into the system. They contribute billions in taxes but have limited access to most public services, so simply saying "no services," isn't going to work.
so?

I asked you what you think they’re entitled to.
Second, did you even read the article you keep spamming? According to the Democrats cited, they are suggesting several workable solutions that don't require cutting them off entirely. For instance, they suggest expanding preventative care and community clinics, which would lower overall healthcare costs, and help both undocumented immigrants and citizens. They suggest private funding to reduce the burden on state taxpayers. They also talk about exploring ways to create a pathway for more sustainable contributions, like extending work permits or creating a sliding scale for healthcare costs, based on income. My personal solution lies in a more progressive tax system.
These options are admittedly unsustainable. The fact that the Governor admitted this is an illegal immigrant problem, lets me know that these marginal edge trimming moves will never cut it.

Illegals gotta go. And fast.
Finally, the situation isn't as simple as cutting services. These things require more thought than just "throw 'em out." They reject this thinking and pledge to continue supporting the system, so you're just going to have to come to terms with it. And I didn't call you a Republican, but if the shoe fits.
Why is every option on the table to legitimize what is a fundamental violation of the nation’s laws?

Then yall act shocked when we get blown out in elections and republicans start making inroads in SoCal?
 

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Petty Vandross.. fukk Yall
i don’t have any issue with strict immigration. i have an issue with letting people die.
Americans are dying with insurance
The fukk are you stupid nikkas on
Take your ass to the UK, China, Japan, South Korea or whatever the fukk and watch them muthafukkas laugh in your face for seeking asylum and wanting free healthcare and other incentives that their own citizens don’t get or pay a premium
You fukkin retarded kumbaya nikkas can eat a bowl of dikks for these racist sumbytches
 
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so?

I asked you what you think they’re entitled to.

These options are admittedly unsustainable. The fact that the Governor admitted this is an illegal immigrant problem, lets me know that these marginal edge trimming moves will never cut it.

Illegals gotta go. And fast.

Why is every option on the table to legitimize what is a fundamental violation of the nation’s laws?

Then yall act shocked when we get blown out in elections and republicans start making inroads in SoCal?
So what? All you do is lie, spam this site with articles and commentary that you don't even bother to read or watch.

First, Newsom never said this was an "illegal immigrant problem." That's a misrepresentation. The article attributes rising healthcare costs to higher-than-expected enrollment, an aging population, and increasing medical expenses across the board, issues that affect the entire system, not just undocumented immigrants.

Second, the question isn't about "legitimizing" anything, it's about dealing with reality we face. These people live here, work here, and contribute billions in taxes. If they're helping fund the system but can't even access most of what they pay into, how does it make sense to cut off the little they do get? What happens when hospitals start closing because of unpaid emergency care costs? Or when an untreated outbreak spreads because people were blocked from basic healthcare? You intentionally refuse to reckon with this reality. Saying "illegals gotta go fast" isn't a solution. You can't even articulate how that would work.

As far as the rest of what you're saying, it's nothing more than that same bullshyt you've been pushing for the past few months. :russell:
 

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Exactly not your problem because its not a problem. Just a talking point for you and your brother to fear monger with. I've heard the same right wing talking points you two spew all my life. Quit being a shytty human.

fukk outta here with the emotional blackmail of "stop being a shytty human" phuk you. I don't want my tax dollars going to millions of people who aren't supposed to be here. You crazy? How many migrants you personally housing? If the answer is zero, STFU.
 
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