Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

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never thought my fandom would be tested but this shyt is just all bad
the dude didnt wanna be here fine but this is the deal we choose?
i thought with perry and co in charge the team wouldn't make drastic decisions like these
whole year has been about patience, now our future is based on fantasies
 

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Apparently he's been healthy. And the Knicks told him go have a seat.

Knicks finally won the PR war, clearly the source for Woj and SAS.

Interesting thoughts



When put that way, I'm less angsty but this move is a huge gamble and requires the Knicks to get the number 1 pick
 

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Yuck

If you're getting rid of Porzingis, what did Dallas offer you that no other team could've offered you? The only thing this deal did, which no other deal would've done is pair two young stars together without blowing up the other teams cap space. Why would a free agent go to NY instead of Dallas now? And DSJ hasn't shown anything but ability to score sometimes. He's not better than THJR so we got the worst talent in the deal and got picks that will only be bad if KP leaves his more ideal situation. I don't see the positives here.

Long story short, Knicks just confirmed that their plans to be a good team extend out to 2023 and not 2020.

Dog...it got rid of Tim and Lee.

It opened up a 2nd max slot.

What other trade for Porzingis gets rid of our 2 most unmovable contracts and frees up space for 2019?

The trade in theory comes down to trading Porzingis for some combo of KD and Kyrie/Kawhi + having our top 5 pick with future picks to come. That's the intention behind it. That's what no other team had the combination of offering. We went from pairing a potential question mark in KP with 1 superstar to being able to sign 2 established superstars.

It's a homerun swing.

You've been one of the most consistent and level-headed Knick brehs in here. How you don't see where there is an actual benefit to this trade is baffling to me. The benefit is a seat at the table come July 1st, no matter how intangible it may be. It created an opportunity we didn't have before.
 

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Dog...it got rid of Tim and Lee.

It opened up a 2nd max slot.

What other trade for Porzingis gets rid of our 2 most unmovable contracts and frees up space for 2019?

The trade in theory comes down to trading Porzingis for some combo of KD and Kyrie/Kawhi + having our top 5 pick with future picks to come. That's the intention behind it. That's what no other team had the combination of offering. We went from pairing a potential question mark in KP with 1 superstar to being able to sign 2 established superstars.

It's a homerun swing.

You've been one of the most consistent and level-headed Knick brehs in here. How you don't see where there is an actual benefit to this trade is baffling to me. The benefit is a seat at the table come July 1st, no matter how intangible it may be. It created an opportunity we didn't have before.
I don't think there's no benefit. I just think the benefits could've been maximized with a different team. But that's obviously just speculation on my part
 

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I respect you trying to talk @JMurder off the ledge.

The thing is, he is worried that if we strike out in summer 2019...we will become the ultimate & permanent laughing stock of the sports world. It'll be an embarrassment big enough for a serious setback in regards to how serious(or not so) free agents & sports analysts take us.

We absolutely need to sign a superstar this year. Everything indicated that 2019-20 was the year the rebuild would start to pay off because of the incoming talent & much more developed youth.

It's disheartening to consider the prospect that we are going to have to be content with another 3-4 years of being the worst team in the league.

Again, I'm much more optimistic now but those are still good reasons to be scared.

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My bad, let me say one more thing about KP & our options. In order to have a satisfactory trade, the Knicks would have to satisfy all of these requirements:

  • The other team in the trade would be confident enough to think KP will be able to be healthy and produce.
  • KP would be willing to make public his intent to sign with that team long term.
  • The other team would have to be confident that KP isn't blowing smoke up their ass and dip.
  • We had to get something in return that allowed us to be in a lucrative position.
In my opinion...The Mavs, w/ Doncic balling & Dirk about to retire, might have been the only team that could possibly satisfy all of these requirements.
 

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:jbhmm:I'm a Knicks fan I know better than to be optimistic about anything :martin:Nothing good is coming from this trade. Pessimistic Iron man from here on out
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We have our hopes on everything going right this offseason. Lol

Watch us get the #4 pick again and Steve Mills burying his head on live television for everyone to see. Karma is real and the Ewing trade is what did us in. We need to do right by him to lift this curse. Let’s sacrifice a goat and make curry goat in honor of Ewing and hire him as head coach before the draft lottery.
 

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I legit was :angry: yesterday when I heard the news KP was traded. As news came in that he wanted to be gone and was posting shots on social media , I came to realize even tho he was our Unicorn :mjcry: he had to be shipped. Was it the best deal on the table idk, but it did leave us with flexibility cap wise and we can still roll with the tank. All in all, we are really banking on big FA coming here and our track record is not good on luring superstars. It's up to the Front Office cuz if we don't get anybody on that superstar level, we lost on that gamble
 

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I don't think there's no benefit. I just think the benefits could've been maximized with a different team. But that's obviously just speculation on my part

I honestly haven't looked but besides Dallas' 1 year deals I honestly can't think of any teams that would offer a comparable package with this idea in mind.

But my main thing was being concerned that you didn't even see the potential long-term benefits. Sounds like we can at least agree there's potential for something major here - any and everything else from there is speculation and hope till July on our part.
 

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I respect you trying to talk @JMurder off the ledge.

The thing is, he is worried that if we strike out in summer 2019...we will become the ultimate & permanent laughing stock of the sports world. It'll be an embarrassment big enough for a serious setback in regards to how serious(or not so) free agents & sports analysts take us.

We absolutely need to sign a superstar this year. Everything indicated that 2019-20 was the year the rebuild would start to pay off because of the incoming talent & much more developed youth.

It's disheartening to consider the prospect that we are going to have to be content with another 3-4 years of being the worst team in the league.

Again, I'm much more optimistic now but those are still good reasons to be scared.

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My bad, let me say one more thing about KP & our options. In order to have a satisfactory trade, the Knicks would have to satisfy all of these requirements:

  • The other team in the trade would be confident enough to think KP will be able to be healthy and produce.
  • KP would be willing to make public his intent to sign with that team long term.
  • The other team would have to be confident that KP isn't blowing smoke up their ass and dip.
  • We had to get something in return that allowed us to be in a lucrative position.
In my opinion...The Mavs, w/ Doncic balling & Dirk about to retire, might have been the only team that could possibly satisfy all of these requirements.

I hear that. But in my mind, you don't make a move like this without having an ace in the hole. This is a big dikk move, word to my nikka @KnickstapeCity
 
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