Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[MR. Conclusion]

Chris vernon said he heard that the org is out on Frank

I agree with the team's view on all of the players mentioned here. Burke's doing his thing, but Trier and Noah are the two most impressive players.

I think Trier might shock everybody with how good he will get. He's got some dog in him, and plays like he got something to prove.

 

[MR. Conclusion]

so frank had 0 points, 0 assists, 0 rebounds and 0 steals in 15 minutes

im sorry but dis boy is trash again
dis is unacceptable at any level

You're focusing on the fact he had 0 pts, rebs, & assists but you didn't add up all the bad passes and inappropriate shot attempts he passed up.



At this rate the only reason Frank stays in the rotation is because they don't want to lower his trade value.

 

[DPresidential]

If effort just comes down to pounding the rock in isolation, shooting equally inefficiently but more often and not worrying about defense at all sure.

But that's not true for Tim.

He has his issues but effort is putting his body on the line, reading charges, not being afraid to try on D.

That's unfair.

To be honest, Trey tries in D as well.

Plus defenders? Nah. But the effort is there.

Frank is my dude, but max effort is shown on the defensive end as much as Tim's attempt to carry this struggling offense is there on offense.

 

[ikbm]

But that's not true for Tim.

He has his issues but effort is putting his body on the line, reading charges, not being afraid to try on D.

That's unfair.

To be honest, Trey tries in D as well.

Plus defenders? Nah. But the effort is there.

Frank is my dude, but max effort is shown on the defensive end as much as Tim's attempt to carry this struggling offense is there on offense.

it's a hell of a lot easier to take ill advised contested jumpers than to repeatedly fight over screens fam

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Stop fukking around get the guy in my avi and let's meld together to fight our enemies

On the real yall seem like you got a bunch of guys that can attack off the dribble but no one to set the table after doing so.

 

[storyteller]

But that's not true for Tim.

He has his issues but effort is putting his body on the line, reading charges, not being afraid to try on D.

That's unfair.

To be honest, Trey tries in D as well.

Plus defenders? Nah. But the effort is there.

Frank is my dude, but max effort is shown on the defensive end as much as Tim's attempt to carry this struggling offense is there on offense.

I actually think THJ being able to read and draw charges shows a level of anticipation that's missing in most of his weakside rotation defense. So in my mind, he SHOULD be a better defender but isn't and if it's not effort or focus then I'm not really sure what to blame it on. But THJ was a better defender for Budenholzer then he has been since he got here.

Trey, you have a point. I think he tries and just isn't good. It's like the reverse Frank except Frank's defense is more consistent and we've got no players that can replicate it. Frank is our best perimeter defender 9 nights out of 10. Trey's our best isolation scorer as long as Timmy, Trier and now Mudiay aren't playing well.

 

[storyteller]

Stop fukking around get the guy in my avi and let's meld together to fight our enemies

On the real yall seem like you got a bunch of guys that can attack off the dribble but no one to set the table after doing so.

What are Philly fans expecting back for him? I'd probably want a pick back if I were you guys, but I also don't think the Knicks should do that (too bad right now to give up draft assets).

 

[DPresidential]

it's a hell of a lot easier to take ill advised contested jumpers than to repeatedly fight over screens fam

And I'm not arguing that.

It's a hell of alot harder to be an efficient scorer, have a healthy TS%, and be one of the only shot creators while being the focus of the defense for 30+ mins than you're leading on.

This isn't twilight so I'm not going to be "team timmy" against Frank on some mean girls vibe, though.

Their both my sons, and I anknowledge I can't keep my bias out of this opinion.

 

[storyteller]

And I'm not arguing that.

It's a hell of alot harder to be an efficient scorer, have a healthy TS%, and be one of the only shot creators while being the focus of the defense for 30+ mins than you're leading on.

This isn't twilight so I'm not going to be "team timmy" against Frank in some mean girls vibe, though.

Their both my sons, and I anknowledge I can't keep my bias out of this opinion.

Problem is Timmy's shot himself out of being efficient with this recent stretch. His TS% is equal to rookie year and below his Atlanta production while his FG% is down to 40. I do feel like he's done more than last season though. He's attempting some playmaking and at least the charges are up. But Timmy has been regressing in a similar fashion to what he did last year (right down to getting hurt before it started). Also, I just don't give him a pass on defense. He can be better there, I've seen it in Atlanta.

 

[DPresidential]

Problem is Timmy's shot himself out of being efficient with this recent stretch. His TS% is equal to rookie year and below his Atlanta production while his FG% is down to 40. I do feel like he's done more than last season though. He's attempting some playmaking and at least the charges are up. But Timmy has been regressing in a similar fashion to what he did last year (right down to getting hurt before it started). Also, I just don't give him a pass on defense. He can be better there, I've seen it in Atlanta.

I feel you. Yes, this current stretch is brutal and I have my theories on why it's happening.

It does indicate a volatile mental aspect that will keep him from ever being a real no.1 star on a team.

That being said, your points are well taken.

 

[Miles Davis]

Problem is Timmy's shot himself out of being efficient with this recent stretch. His TS% is equal to rookie year and below his Atlanta production while his FG% is down to 40. I do feel like he's done more than last season though. He's attempting some playmaking and at least the charges are up. But Timmy has been regressing in a similar fashion to what he did last year (right down to getting hurt before it started). Also, I just don't give him a pass on defense. He can be better there, I've seen it in Atlanta.

And as much shyt I give Tim I don’t think it’s solely his fault, it’s the coaching. I don’t believe the offense is built for the team, it’s built for 4 people. My main issue with Tim is that horrid contract.

We can talk all the shyt we want about Knox and Frank but I believe the bulk of the blame is on the coaching, they play favorites. Some players need more help and they seem to be the two whereas Mitch and Trier are already a bit better.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

Stop fukking around get the guy in my avi and let's meld together to fight our enemies

On the real yall seem like you got a bunch of guys that can attack off the dribble but no one to set the table after doing so.

We don't want that retarded tourettes shooting ass nikka.

 

[storyteller]

I feel you. Yes, this current stretch is brutal and I have my theories on why it's happening.

It does indicate a volatile mental aspect that will keep him from ever being a real no.1 star on a team.

That being said, your points are well taken.

I'm wondering if he's got the Melo issue where the dude would be on a tear, get hurt and then play through it without changing his game at all to compensate. So his numbers would nosedive, he'd never get fully healed and the whole team suffered more than if he'd just taken a week off. I jumped back to see his numbers since sitting out one game for his back and it's sub 40% shooting on average. It could just be that he's fallen back to the median, I won't front on that, but I think there was a clear dropoff right at that point which I won't dismiss.

 

[23Barrettcity]

trey and tim come to play every game
the effort is there even if it isnt the best results
you coulda played for us tonight and put up a better statline den frank

Meh them and mudiay don’t seem to really be held accountable to the same standards as others . That’s my issue with fitz and I could be wrong but certain players seem like they are playing on eggshells while others are rewarded for playing hard and scrappy but mistakes seem to be ignored .

 

[Monsanto]

We see it year in and year out. Every Knicks point guard gets overhyped on here.

Felton
Galloway
Prigioni

And then the decline happens. Suddenly their bright spark isn't good enough.

With Frank he isn't aggressive enough on the offensive end. Now I believe every player is still coming into their own until their 3rd season. That's when they are who they are.

One season left for Frank.

Looking at this team top to bottom it's not convincing than being a treadmill team. Again.

New York can't get out of that habit and seeing Fizdale as our treadmill coach with indecisive lineups we better get used to it.