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No parle-vous francais.

¿No sabe hablar alguno acá? Pensaría que alguno supiera...... Me muero de encontrarle a alguien que habla español avanzado
 
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Thanks breh
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Si tu as besoin de conseils quant à de bons films, séries, sites, journaux ou musiques en français, je posterai des trucs, pas de souci.

D'ailleurs, je pense que cela ne serait pas un problème si dans ce topic particulier, chacun pose ses questions dans la langue qu'il souhaite apprendre. Ainsi, cela permettrait aux personnes maîtrisant ladite langue de répondre (dans sa langue évidemment) et corriger le cas échéant le demandeur ;)

If you need advices for some good french movies, series, websites, newspapers or music, I'll post some stuff, no problem.

By the way, I think it wouldn't be a problem if in this specific thread, each one asks questions in the language one wants to learn. This way, the people mastering the said language could answer (in their language obviously) and correct the enquirer if necessary ;)
 

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I also forgot to tell that reading is fundamental when one wants to learn a language. Above all, if one has visual memory : it will greatly helps with the grammar and the orthography.

You could read french classic books but they are not really easy even for a frenchy.
I'll give you some names if interested :

Émile ZOLA
- Germinal
- La bête humaine (The human beast)
- Nana
- J'accuse

Victor HUGO
- Le dernier jour d'un condamné (The last day of a condemned man)
- Les misérables
- Notre-Dame de Paris (The Hunchback of Notre-Dame)

Alexandre DUMAS
- Les trois mousquetaires (The three musketeers)
- Le comte de Monte-christo (The count of Monte-Christo)

Nathalie SARRAUTE
- Enfance (Childhood)

Jean-Paul SARTRE
- Les mots (The words)

Georges PEREC
- La disparition (The disappearance)
- W ou le Souvenir d'enfance (W or the childhood memory)
- Tentative d'épuisement d'un lieu parisian (Attempt to exhaust a parisian place)

Albert CAMUS
- L'étranger (The stranger)
etc...

There are many more but I am not really a reader like that.
Or what you can do is take a book you already know and read the translation, it's also works. An easy one to begin with then slowly increase the difficulty to finally read a real french book.
 

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I also forgot to tell that reading is fundamental when one wants to learn a language. Above all, if one has visual memory : it will greatly helps with the grammar and the orthography.

You could read french classic books but they are not really easy even for a frenchy.
I'll give you some names if interested :

Émile ZOLA
- Germinal
- La bête humaine (The human beast)
- Nana
- J'accuse

Victor HUGO
- Le dernier jour d'un condamné (The last day of a condemned man)
- Les misérables
- Notre-Dame de Paris (The Hunchback of Notre-Dame)

Alexandre DUMAS
- Les trois mousquetaires (The three musketeers)
- Le comte de Monte-christo (The count of Monte-Christo)

Nathalie SARRAUTE
- Enfance (Childhood)

Jean-Paul SARTRE
- Les mots (The words)

Georges PEREC
- La disparition (The disappearance)
- W ou le Souvenir d'enfance (W or the childhood memory)
- Tentative d'épuisement d'un lieu parisian (Attempt to exhaust a parisian place)

Albert CAMUS
- L'étranger (The stranger)
etc...

There are many more but I am not really a reader like that.
Or what you can do is take a book you already know and read the translation, it's also works. An easy one to begin with then slowly increase the difficulty to finally read a real french book.

To add to that, you also have "billingual" books in which you have the original version on one page and the translation on the other page, can be a good look to approach the language without always keeping a dictionnary at hand.
 

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Damn, I need to step up my language learning skills. I don't read, listen to music or watch tv & movies much in the languages I have fluency..... Unfortunately, I can't speak French.

Willing to help anyone that wants to learn Spanish and looking for someone that can speak Brazilian Portuguese or Italian for language exchange.
 

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Spanish Pronunciation

Vowels English Example Spanish Example

a mama, yacht cama, masa, Ana(long a sound)
e ten, desk tele, mete, nene(short a sound)
i trio, chic, elite sí, mitin, di(English e sound)
o obey solo, moto, oso
y(alone) many, penny y(English e sound)


Common Diphthongs

ai/ay ice bailáis, iay
ei/ey vein veinte, ley, rey
oi/oy oil, joy oigo, soy, doy
au cow, how auto, aula, ausente


Consonants

b & v bat(first position and after m/n) bamba, vamos, vemos
un beso, enviar
between vowels evitar, iba, uva
Note: B, P & V sound the same



c (before a, o, u) cat(but without breath of air) casa, cosa, cuna
(before e, i) cent(Latin America) celos, cinco, cesto
th sound (Spain)

ch check chico, ocho, lucha

d do(first position/after n) donde, aldea, anda
th(between vowels only) ida, oda, anda

f fame fama, fe, foto

g(before a, o, u) gas, go, gun gala, goma, gustar
(before e, i) hot(hard h sound) gesto, Gil, gime

h silent as in hour, honest hasta, hora, hola

j(before all vowels) hot(hard h sound) jota, ojo, jefe

k kit(foreign words only) kiosko

l similar to English lento, ala, ola

ll million or yes(English y) llama, ella, olla
hard Eng. j sound

m similar to English mi, más

n similar to English no, nota

ñ onion, union uña, año, niño

p similar to Eng w/o air pan, peso, sopa

qu(used only before similar to English k que, quien, queso
e, i) but w/o air

r softly rolled r aroma, era, ira

rr hard rolled r arroz, Rosa, horror
(words that begin/end
with r are rolled)

s sim to Eng but not sin, son, esa
always identical

t sim to Eng but harder tu, te, ti, tos

w not used

x sim to Eng but not except, excelente, extra
identical

z s sound zona, zeta, zapato
th sound(Spain)


Common Semi-Consonants

i (before a, e, o) yes bien, tienes, hielo
u (before a, e, i, o) was, went, wind agua, bueno, cuota

y (before a, e, o, u) yarn, yolk ya, yo, yeso, Yunque
hard Eng. j sound


Rules for Pronunciation

1)
Spanish speakers normally emphasize the last syllable of a word unless it ends in a n or s (por ejemplo...... alrededor, papel, actriz

2)When a word ends in n or s, the next to last syllable is emphasized(por ejemplo.... resumen, examen

*Words that don't follow these rules will have a written accent mark to show where the emphasis is suppose to be(por ejemplo..... lámpara, lápiz, detrás, reunión)

*Accents are used for interrogative words(¿Quién?, ¿Qué?, ¿Cuándo?, ¿Dónde?, ¿Por qué?, ¿Cuál?, ect.....)

*Accents are used to break up diphthongs or semi-consonants when
needed(por ejemplo...... país, policía, aún)

*Using the accent also very important because it can change the translation of a word, especially when they are spelled the same(por ejemplo.... él/el, inglés/ingles, ésta/está/esta).
 

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im gonna be in the dominican next week i need to brush up on basic conversational spanish

"i would like to have"
"hey how are you"














































"how much for the young blonde"

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im gonna be in the dominican next week i need to brush up on basic conversational spanish

"i would like to have" = Yo pediría/querría/desearía(pedir is use to order something like food, querer is to want, desear is another way to say I want or I desire). Always say por favor after asking for something.

"hey how are you" = Hola, ¿Cómo está? Elementary Spanish, bruh :rudy:

"how much for the young blonde" = ¿Cuánto cuesta la rubia/rubinita? :jawalrus:


Answered... Have fun!!!!!!
 

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As the title of the thread indicates, this thread is for those that are serious about learning the Spanish language but a lot of the things that will be discussed in this thread can be applied to learning other languages. If you have any questions or need help(NOTE: I won't be doing anyone's homework but I will give advice) PM me or post your question in this thread and I will help you.


As for my knowledge, I'm an strong intermediate(borderline advanced)Spanish speaker. I place importance on grammar because they are the guidelines to understanding why something is written or said.... and without those, it is pretty hard for a person to communicate or construct their thoughts in another language. I have been interested in foreign language all of my life but I have just(admittedly)learned the intricacies and the patience needed to learn another language. Like every other American kid, I knew basic Spanish words and phrases but I decided to become serious about learning when I began middle school. With the knowledge I obtained in elementary, my first year Spanish class was easy but I started losing focus in 8th grade(for school in general)so I barely passed my Intermediate Spanish class. I learned the fundamentals that would eventually lead me to want to seriously pursue learning it later. In 2008, I started back and I've been putting in work ever since.

Ok.... Now links..

Resource: Destinos: An Introduction to Spanish

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Look up Professor Jason on YouTube.... He is the truth.. and he speaks Portuguese too.

Books.... There are many on the market but I would suggest anything made by Barron's. Spanish Now Vol 1 is a large workbook with exercises and in depth walkthrough of the Spanish language from basic pronunciation leading into advanced Spanish. You will eventually own(this is a necessity)Baron's 501 Spanish Verbs, which is basically the Spanish verb bible commentary for English speakers. It explains all verb tenses and their uses along with commonly used verbs. The other series of books that I would suggest is the Practice Makes Perfect series but I would only suggest those books if you have already study Spanish in school and are at least at intermediate level. The downside of these books is that they are broken down into their respective parts of grammar, so while the give central focus to a particular part of Spanish grammar, you will end up paying more to own all of them.

With these resources, Skype, watching TV or listening to music.... 3 years

AHHHH Destinos, my old highschool nemesis we meet again lol.
I never got to finish that story gonna have to check it out. Excellent thread.
 
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