Lamar Jackson >>>> Joe Burrow

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True.
It's also true though that the Ravens have never implemented a pass-dominant scheme with LJ and still haven't this year despite getting a new OC.
I wonder why that is

The Ravens will always emphasize the running game. It's one of the main reasons Lamar was drafted. John Harbaugh is the opposite of Andy Reid. He values the run game. They brought Monken in to improve the passing game while still focusing on the run, and John Harbaugh is very satisfied with the current results.

A lot of you are blaming Lamar for an organizational philosophy that's been in place for almost twenty years.
 

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He literally called him mid in his post lol. I know his draft comparison was Diggs :troll:

But fr, of course he ain't them (yet) but you can't call him mid either after 4 games. A lot of this is on the Ravens to (Lamar cant be singled out even though I have some questions about him especially with seeing him vs my Titans multiple times), cuz they've selected more WRs in the past 5-6 years in the 1st round than they ever have in a stretch and they are not hitting for some reason.
Ok I missed the post that called Flowers mid. I would say that Flowers has the potential to be special but it's going to depend on if the Ravens can utilize him properly. I've been said that our GM needs to go so I'm in agreement with you about our poor draft choices at WR.
 
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I mean Jackson himself and a lot of posters on this site did put those expectations on that team and revamped offense in saying that the old OC was mainly the problem, so you really can’t blame people for holding them to it.

We can easily pull the receipts if you believe otherwise :hubie:

I said he was gonna cook too. I won't even make you search for that, but it's still brand new variables to account for. There were also people claiming he was going to fall on his face once Roman left and that's not even close to what's been happening. Him and Josh Allen are completing passes at 74% so far this season.

I have him in my money fantasy leagues so I make sure to watch his games. Cleveland defense is pretty fukking good and he hung 4 TDs on them. 2 passing and 2 rushing. The same defense that Burrow went 14-31 with 82 yards passing earlier in the year. Burrow gets a little grace for being rusty from no pre-season, but he got the same coach and same WRs. Regardless of how rusty you are putting up less than 100 yards passing is wild if it's not a monsoon and you're throwing to Chase.
 

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I said he was gonna cook too. I won't even make you search for that, but it's still brand new variables to account for. There were also people claiming he was going to fall on his face once Roman left and that's not even close to what's been happening. Him and Josh Allen are completing passes at 74% so far this season.

I have him in my money fantasy leagues so I make sure to watch his games. Cleveland defense is pretty fukking good and he hung 4 TDs on them. 2 passing and 2 rushing. The same defense that Burrow went 14-31 with 82 yards passing earlier in the year. Burrow gets a little grace for being rusty from no pre-season, but he got the same coach and same WRs. Regardless of how rusty you are putting up less than 100 yards passing is wild if it's not a monsoon and you're throwing to Chase.
Burrows has a calf injury that's obvious limiting his mobility and if you were watching what was going on the field, then it's obvious that he can't move. Before you compare it to the Mahomes injury like you did in another thread, Burrows has the same injury that Rodgers suffered a few months ago and we just saw the end result of what it could lead to.

Anyways, I honestly don't trust neither Allen nor Jackson to come through when it matters in the postseason until they both proof otherwise. The lack of weapons argument doesn't matter to me as we just saw Mahomes do it last season outside of Kelce and even wack ass Daniel Jones win a playoff game with a subpar offensive cast outside of Barkley.

If you want to say that Allen or Jackson is a top 5 QB, then come through when it matters most and weapons or not that's what Burrows has done :hubie:
 

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Burrows has a calf injury that's obvious limiting his mobility and if you were watching what was going on the field, then it's obvious that he can't move. Before you compare it to the Mahomes injury like you did in another thread, Burrows has the same injury that Rodgers suffered a few months ago and we just saw the end result of what it could lead to.

Anyways, I honestly don't trust neither Allen nor Jackson to come through when it matters in the postseason until they both proof otherwise. The lack of weapons argument doesn't matter to me as we just saw Mahomes do it last season outside of Kelce and even wack ass Daniel Jones win a playoff game with a subpar offensive cast outside of Barkley.

If you want to say that Allen or Jackson is a top 5 QB, then come through when it matters most and weapons or not that's what Burrows has done :hubie:

Nah. Burrow's defense has come through. Y'all keep forgetting that part. Allen's hasn't and you can't say weapons or not about Lamar when he's throwing to Hollywood Brown's inconsistent ass in an away playoff game at Buffalo. The game before he came back against the Titans down 10 in an away playoff game.......and that's not even throwing an MVP out there.

Also. I'm not doing the injury thing anymore. He's not the first QB with a lower leg injury to play in a game. He wasn't even that mobile to begin with so acting like it's a major crutch in his game is disingenuous. You'd be right if you were talking about Hurts or Fields or Richardson, but distribution is what he does and being a statue doesn't hinder that in any way at all. It's a strained calf. It's not a torn ligament. He's not Dan Marino level immobile. This ain't a Willis Reed situation. It's a strained calf on a pocket focused QB. It shouldn't bother his mechanics in any sort of major way.

This is from Burrow himself. He's debunking the excuses y'all give for him. There's other articles saying how it was his best practice week before the Titans and how he's fully participating. If he's that hurt he wouldn't even be practicing on it.

 
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joe borough had a spark when he started but now
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He was a bum from day 1
 

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Nah. Burrow's defense has come through. Y'all keep forgetting that part. Allen's hasn't and you can't say weapons or not about Lamar when he's throwing to Hollywood Brown's inconsistent ass in an away playoff game at Buffalo. The game before he came back against the Titans down 10 in an away playoff game.......and that's not even throwing an MVP out there.

Also. I'm not doing the injury thing anymore. He's not the first QB with a lower leg injury to play in a game. He wasn't even that mobile to begin with so acting like it's a major crutch in his game is disingenuous. You'd be right if you were talking about Hurts or Fields or Richardson, but distribution is what he does and being a statue doesn't hinder that in any way at all. It's a strained calf. It's not a torn ligament. He's not Dan Marino level immobile. This ain't a Willis Reed situation. It's a strained calf on a pocket focused QB. It shouldn't bother his mechanics in any sort of major way.

This is from Burrow himself. He's debunking the excuses y'all give for him. There's other articles saying how it was his best practice week before the Titans and how he's fully participating. If he's that hurt he wouldn't even be practicing on it.

Do you actually think Joe Burrow would keep it 100% honest and say that he was injured? His comments mean nothing as players lie all the time.

It’s also fine if you don’t want to do the injury thing. Just remember that if Jackson gets injured again based on his track record these past few years as is the case with Burrow.
 

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I mean Jackson himself and a lot of posters on this site did put those expectations on that team and revamped offense in saying that the old OC was mainly the problem, so you really can’t blame people for holding them to it.

We can easily pull the receipts if you believe otherwise :hubie:
Why are we acting like the Ravens offense is struggling? It's better than it was last year by a significant margin. The Ravens played an elite defense last Sunday and torched them.





The Browns allowed 1 Total TD in the first 3 games. Lamar Jackson alone scored 4 TD's against a strong Browns defense on the road without:

#1 WR
#2 WR
#1 RB
#1 LT
 

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Why are we acting like the Ravens offense is struggling? It's better than it was last year by a significant margin. The Ravens played an elite defense last Sunday and torched them.





The Browns allowed 1 Total TD in the first 3 games. Lamar Jackson alone scored 4 TD's against a strong Browns defense on the road without:

#1 WR
#2 WR
#1 RB
#1 LT



W/Dobbins on IR
 

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Why are we acting like the Ravens offense is struggling? It's better than it was last year by a significant margin. The Ravens played an elite defense last Sunday and torched them.





The Browns allowed 1 Total TD in the first 3 games. Lamar Jackson alone scored 4 TD's against a strong Browns defense on the road without:

#1 WR
#2 WR
#1 RB
#1 LT

Where in my comment did I say that the offense was struggling? What I said was that the passing attack isn't as potent as Jackson and people on this site insisted it would be. Other people made that comment, so don't blame some of us for holding them to it.

Dobbins has been unreliable since he stepped foot in the league, so I also wouldn't call him a #1 RB either. OBJ isn't a #1 WR anymore IMO and hasn't shown that he can be one in years. He's a #1 in name only at this point until proven otherwise. Other teams have suffered injuries to their offensive line as well, so I wouldn’t use that as an excuse.
 
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