Kyrie is better than Wall. Waiters' been better than Beal. Cavs future > Wiz future

[Dayco23]

Wall/Beal vs Irving/Waiters have played each other 7 times over the last 2 years. Irving/Waiters have won 5 of 7. Most recent game Waiters was injured and Wizards won. One game last year Beal was injured and Cavs won.

So Irving/Waiters is 4-1 vs Wall/Beal when everyone on the court.

 

[clouddd]

Tell me when Kyrie can do this

this doesn't even show the best part of the play...Wall was guarding the INBOUNDER in front of the scorer's table...simply shadowed the ball as it came into play, and then hit him with the legion of boom

 

[Bledswole]

Wall/Beal vs Irving/Waiters have played each other 7 times over the last 2 years. Irving/Waiters have won 5 of 7. Most recent game Waiters was injured and Wizards won. One game last year Beal was injured and Cavs won.

So Irving/Waiters is 4-1 vs Wall/Beal when everyone on the court.

So that makes Kyrie better?

 

[Eternal Tecate]

 

[TheNig]

Wall better than any pg not named Sabo

 

[I.V.]

I'd entertain a Wall/Kyrie debate. I'm not sure where I come down on it.

But waiters over Beal....

 

[Dayco23]

So that makes Kyrie better?

I thought this thread was about Irving/Waiters vs Wall/Beal

 

[Bledswole]

I thought this thread was about Irving/Waiters vs Wall/Beal

Well it seems.its turning into WallvsKyrie

But my fault for.jumping the gun

 

[TheNig]

I'd entertain a Wall/Kyrie debate. I'm not sure where I come down on it.

But waiters over Beal....

Give Philly Rock some credit. Dude came back from the break ballin

 

[FAH1223]

Don't get me wrong, john wall is great

But I feel kyrie ceiling is higher and will be a better player than john wall.

He's just in a shytty situation that is the Cleveland Cavaliers (even if they have been winning games lately). When he leaves and goes to a decent/good team, he will flourish just like john wall is right now

Irving is the better scorer but Wall is the superior defender and his athleticism has him doing stuff PGs normally don't do

and Wall is only 23...

I don't know if Irving will develop the defensive skills and intensity that Wall is showing right in front of us

 

[Black]

Wall>Kyire

Beal>Waiters what is so hard to understand?

 

[BStapies]

Irving is the better scorer but Wall is the superior defender and his athleticism has him doing stuff PGs normally don't do

and Wall is only 23...

I don't know if Irving will develop the defensive skills and intensity that Wall is showing right in front of us

Whats harder to develop.

Defense or a jumpshot

Keep in mind one of them is playing for arguably the worse organization in the NBA.

As I said, when Kyrie leaves, his stats will be shown. Hes already averaging 22-6 on that shyt team.

 

[mastermind]

Whats harder to develop.

Defense or a jumpshot

Defense.

Keep in mind one of them is playing for arguably the worse organization in the NBA.

Both are playing for arguably the worst organizations in the NBA.

As I said, when Kyrie leaves, his stats will be shown. Hes already averaging 22-6 on that shyt team.

I don't think brehs realize how restrictive Randy Wittman's been to John Wall's career. This offense is not catered to his skillset. Too much standing and it's jumpshot heavy.

Both Wall and Kyrie are gonna be too dogs tho.

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Beal - 16 ppg on 16 shots 41% 34 mpg

Waiters -14 ppg on 13 shots 42% 28 mpg

Keep making shyt up tho

 

[I.V.]

Give Philly Rock some credit. Dude came back from the break ballin

Listen, I don't think Waiters is bereft of talent.

I just think he's less likely to make the most of his talent. Beal has the better jumper, and shoots a significantly higher percentage from 3, and a MUCH higher percentage from the free throw line. He's also averaging 2+ assists MORE than waiters, and his numbers are climbing from last year.