Kyrie Irving on First Take (Breaks down why he left the Cavs, relationship w/ LeBron &more)

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This makes no sense. There isn't much difference between the offenses teams run. Spread the floor, pick and roll, etc.

It makes no sense to say that it was only designed for LeBron to succeed in. And implying that Kyrie ISO's a lot because he is forced to is just laughable. The reason it works better with LeBron than Kyrie is because LeBron is a superior player who is more consistent, more versatile, and a better facilitator and team player.

That's because he is. Kyrie has NEVER been in a system that's based on ball/player movement. I come back and still y'all LeBron stans are talkin' out y'all ass.

So through different coaches, different teammates, and with and without LeBron he has played at a certain way and I'm supposed to believe he has done it against his will? He has had plenty of opportunity over the years to show otherwise.

i) Before LeBron came he was in shytty systems, with shytty and/or young players and was forced to be the sole provider for the team.
ii) When LeBron came, he had to fit with his style of play + the offense that came with it, and take the opportunities as they came. When you're a PG on a LeBron-led team, you're never going to be able to run a team, so I don't quite understand why you'd vilify him for that when he wasn't in the situation to do so. I don't know why this continually needs to be said.

Kyrie has shown (under Blatt, particularly) that he's a willing player in trying to get the ball moving. I wouldn't say he's done it against his will, he's done what he believes is in the best interest of the team (in order to win). He's NEVER been in a situation with proper talent and scheme that encourages ball movement - that much is true.

There's a reason why the two teams at the top of his trade-wishlist were teams with motion-based offenses.

I hope you've been watching what Kyrie's been doing since moving to Boston. Don't say I never told you so.

 

[Bilz]

I hope you've been watching what Kyrie's been doing since moving to Boston. Don't say I never told you so.

I haven't seen any Boston games in preseason so no, I haven't watched what he has been doing, but don't worry, you'll never be accused of not saying "I told you so" to anyone.

 

[R.U.L.E.]

All I heard was a bunch of

Anyone have the original thread as it correlates to this gif? I remember Jules trying to advertise for some pyramid scheme

 

[IllmaticDelta]

SMH.

Please stop talking about basketball.

I'm worried about Kyrie


Not his game, but his personality and leadership. First, with some of the crazy stuff he said over the summer and the passive aggressive comments towards the Cavs. But, I guess whatever he says in the offseason isn't too relevant... can't judge players by that.

But I am TOTALLY concerned with the "leadership" he has been displaying on the court, specifically this Bucks game that's currently going on. Scal mentioned that he listened in on a huddle and Kyrie was yelling at someone for failing to get a pass to him. Then, when Jaylen got in between Kyrie and a pass, Kyrie started totally yapping at him. The camera actually switched to Jaylen's face right as he was rolling his eyes.

Blaming people and pointing fingers is NOT leadership!! The thing that happened with Jaylen was completely understandable... accidents like that happen at least once or twice a game. Also, I don't like the idea of Kyrie yelling at anybody regarding passing. Not only is that somewhat hypocritical for a notoriously iso-oriented player, but that's Brad's purview. Stevens can - and will - handle that stuff. IDK what Kyrie learned while being "the man" on a crappy team, nor what he learned under Lebron, but I really, really don't like what I'm seeing so far. That could hurt the solidarity of the team long run, and it wouldn't take too much to subvert the culture after Ainge just traded away our heart and soul.

Anyway, not trying to hate on Kyrie, but I'm legitimately concerned at the way he has been conducting himself professionally.

I'm worried about Kyrie

 

[IllmaticDelta]

kyrie iso ball is going to clash with celtics motion offense

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You obviously missed the Cavs/Celtics game I take it. Or do you not process shyt that goes against your agenda?

 

[Jplaya2023]

can people give it a month before the kyrie slander. Hell they just lost their second best player. It's going to take a while before they can get it together.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

can people give it a month before the kyrie slander. Hell they just lost their second best player. It's going to take a while before they can get it together.

LeBron stans are trying to get their victory of the season because they know what's coming in the Finals.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I hope you've been watching what Kyrie's been doing since moving to Boston. Don't say I never told you so.

we see

 

[IllmaticDelta]

i) Before LeBron came he was in shytty systems, with shytty and/or young players and was forced to be the sole provider for the team.
ii) When LeBron came, he had to fit with his style of play + the offense that came with it, and take the opportunities as they came. When you're a PG on a LeBron-led team, you're never going to be able to run a team, so I don't quite understand why you'd vilify him for that when he wasn't in the situation to do so. I don't know why this continually needs to be said.

Kyrie has shown (under Blatt, particularly) that he's a willing player in trying to get the ball moving. I wouldn't say he's done it against his will, he's done what he believes is in the best interest of the team (in order to win). He's NEVER been in a situation with proper talent and scheme that encourages ball movement - that much is true.

There's a reason why the two teams at the top of his trade-wishlist were teams with motion-based offenses.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

we see

Where we you after his game against Cleveland? You truly are petty and pathetic.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I didn't know the truth was supposed to be funny? How pathetic do you have to be to up this thread after one game where he struggled without his co-anchor on offense, having to adapt on the fly on a back-to-back?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Kyrie has shown (under Blatt, particularly) that he's a willing player in trying to get the ball moving.

no the fuk he didn't

Looks like I'm going to be tagging you a lot when Kyrie balls out in Stevens' system this season.

@IllmaticDelta

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So through different coaches, different teammates, and with and without LeBron he has played at a certain way and I'm supposed to believe he has done it against his will? He has had plenty of opportunity over the years to show otherwise.

i) Before LeBron came he was in shytty systems, with shytty and/or young players and was forced to be the sole provider for the team.
ii) When LeBron came, he had to fit with his style of play + the offense that came with it, and take the opportunities as they came. When you're a PG on a LeBron-led team, you're never going to be able to run a team, so I don't quite understand why you'd vilify him for that when he wasn't in the situation to do so. I don't know why this continually needs to be said.

Kyrie has shown (under Blatt, particularly) that he's a willing player in trying to get the ball moving. I wouldn't say he's done it against his will, he's done what he believes is in the best interest of the team (in order to win). He's NEVER been in a situation with proper talent and scheme that encourages ball movement - that much is true.

There's a reason why the two teams at the top of his trade-wishlist were teams with motion-based offenses.

we see

@IllmaticDelta look how stupid you look now upping this thread after ONE game. Coward, ho ass nikka.

 

[Bilz]

@IllmaticDelta look how stupid you look now upping this thread after ONE game. Coward, ho ass nikka.

I honestly don't know why you're upping my quote.