Kyrie Irving on First Take (Breaks down why he left the Cavs, relationship w/ LeBron &more)

[MJ Truth]

Be a grown ass man and expect another man to give you an explanation as to why he left.



He hit a game-winning shot in game 7 of the nba finals, He doesn't owe anybody an explanation

Yeah, you ain't saying shyt.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

kyrie lead the cavs in scoring

I cant even deal

 

[Marc Spector]

T'ill this day, you don't have one player saying they left because of Kobe.

Yeah its not like a 3 time finals MVP and center piece of the 3 peat Lakers left because Kobe was a selfish, snitching fakkit.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Yeah, you ain't saying shyt.

Keep expecting that explanation from Kyrie breh

 

[seemorecizzy]

kyrie like not checking in with another man

it not about "checking in"
he doesnt have to ask his opinion
but he could of hollered at the guy he won a championship and let him know what direction he was taking in his career
lebron is the last one in the world who could of judged him or told him to stay

clearly him leaving without saying a word to lebron was a way to stick it to him
obviously he dont fukk with him at all
i doubt he even shakes his hand opening night
hes really upset about something lebron did

if you were leaving your job to go somewhere else, i doubt you would just disappear one day without hollering at some of your co-workers

 

[just4purpose]

He did a whole lotta dancing....prepared answers....in that interview thou

He wasn't getting a "truthful" environment? this is pro sports....

 

[Lord Beasley]

It's common knowledge that he's not all there. #FlatEarth

 

[Makavalli]

Iso is kyrie's game...nothing more....he makes noone else better. The proof is in the pudding/numbers. When lebron is on the floor with kyrie, kyrie has some semblance of a team/passing game but as soon as lebron sits, Kyrie does into straight iso ball on every possession.



there is a reason delly had more team impact outside of direst scoring than kyrie. The 2015-2016 stats, the championship season

WITH and WITHOUT LeBron James              
           
          WITH     min    per 48  |  WITHOUT    min   per 48  |  DIFFERENCE
Frye     + 3.9     8.2    + 22.8  |  - 2.1    10.7    - 9.4   |  +32.2
Delly    + 5.6    16.8    + 16.0  |  - 0.1     9.1    - 0.5   |  +16.5
Shumpert + 3.4    12.5    + 13.1  |  + 0.3    12.8    + 1.1   |  +11.9
Thompson + 5.6    20.7    + 13.0  |  - 0.9     8.8    - 4.9   |  +17.9
Love     + 6.7    27.4    + 11.7  |  - 0.8     6.2    - 6.2   |  +17.9
Smith    + 5.3    26.9    + 9.5   |  - 1.0     6.3    - 7.6   |  +17.1
Irving   + 4.2    23.6    + 8.5   |    0.0    10.0      0.0   |  + 8.5
Jefferso + 1.0     7.3    + 6.6   |  - 1.3    12.7    - 4.9   |  +11.5
Williams + 1.9    15.8    + 5.8   |  - 2.7     6.3    -20.6   |  +26.3

These are outrageous numbers. The kind of difference LeBron makes is huge. Without LeBron on court, each player gets net losses across the board. With him, massive positives. The difference is staggering.

As a comparison, here are the same with-without +/- stats for the other members of the "Big 3". Or perhaps "massive 1 and biggish 2"?

Irving:

WITH and WITHOUT Irving
               
           WITH                      WITHOUT
          "+/-"    min    per 48     "+/-"    min     per 48        DIFFERENCE
James    + 4.2    23.6    + 8.5   |  + 5.4    20.4    + 12.7    |    - 4.2
Smith    + 2.3    22.2    + 5.0   |  + 2.5    15.8     + 7.6    |    - 2.6
Thompson + 4.4    27.7    + 7.6   |  + 3.9    31.5     + 5.9    |    + 1.7
Love     + 2.8    23.1    + 5.8   |  + 3.9    17.3     +10.8    |    - 5.0
Shumpert + 1.1    13.0    + 4.1   |  + 2.4    12.8     + 9.0    |    - 4.9
Delly    + 1.4     8.8    + 7.6   |  + 4.3    19.8     +10.4    |    - 2.8
Frye     + 0.7     9.6    + 3.5   |  + 0.6     9.2     + 3.1    |    + 0.4
Jeffers  + 0.6     8.0    + 3.6   |  - 0.9    13.3     - 3.2    |    + 6.8
Willia   - 1.0     3.5    -13.7   |  - 1.0    17.6     - 2.7    |    -11.0

This doesn't paint Irving's impact on his teammates in a particularly positive light. He is getting big credit for stepping up in the Finals, but his impact based on regular season +/- is not as impressive, especially for a "superstar". Statistically, the other two of the Big 3 actually preferred when they are playing without Irving. And this applies to several others too. Dissing Irving might be a dangerous thing to do around here, so I will just say: basketball is a team game.

And Love:

WITH and WITHOUT Love
             
           WITH                    | WITHOUT                    |
           +/-    min     per 48   | "+/-"    min    per 48     |  DIFFERENCE
James     + 6.7    27.4    + 11.7  |  + 1.8     9.7    + 8.9    |    +  2.8
Irving    + 2.8    23.1    +  5.8  |  + 1.4    10.5    + 6.4    |    -  0.6
Smith     + 3.3    23.8    +  6.7  |  + 0.9     8.4    + 5.1    |    +  1.5
Thompson  + 4.0    16.6    + 11.6  |  + 0.7    12.4    + 2.7    |    +  8.9
Shumpert  + 2.8    11.0    + 12.2  |  + 0.8    14.4    + 2.7    |    +  9.6
Delly     + 4.5    14.1    + 15.3  |  + 0.8    11.4    + 3.4    |    + 12.0
Frye      - 1.0     5.0    -  9.6  |  + 1.7    15.5    + 5.3    |    - 14.9
Jefferson + 0.1     7.5    +  0.6  |  - 0.7    11.5    - 2.9    |    +  3.6
Williams  + 1.4    14.7    +  4.6  |  - 2.4     7.1    -16.2    |    + 20.8

To honour the departing Delly, here is how the Cavs players played with and without him. Somehow Delly seems to add more value that the lesser 2 of the Big 3.

Delly:

WITH and WITHOUT Delly                      

          WITH                   |  WITHOUT                   |
         "+/-"    min    per 48  |  "+/-"    min    per 48    |    DIFFERENCE
James     +5.6    16.8    +16.0  |   +3.0    20.4    +7.1     |    +8.9
Irving    +1.4     8.8     +7.6  |   +2.8    24.7    +5.4     |    +2.2
Smith     +3.2    12.6    +12.2  |   +1.2    19.4    +3.0     |    +9.2
Thompson  +3.0    15.2     +9.5  |   +1.6    13.8    +5.6     |    +3.9
Love      +4.5    14.1    +15.3  |   +1.4    18.5    +3.6     |   +11.7
Shumpert  +2.3    13.9     +7.9  |   +1.4    11.7    +5.7     |    +2.2
Frye      +0.3    10.7     +1.3  |   +1.0     7.7    +6.2     |    -4.9
Jeffers   +0.9    10.6     +4.1  |   -1.5     8.4    -8.6     |   +12.6
Williams  +1.8     7.3    +11.8  |   -2.4    14.7    -7.8     |   +19.7

even prior to lebron, we all knew kyrie was also iso

Kyrie Irving's career record: 63-115 & 12 total Double-Double games

So why didnt bron get delly payed instead of jr shyts and TT or does clevelands coachin staff have no access to advance stats? Kyrie is not a star on Bron's level and would be forever over shadowed in cleveland unless bron went down with an injury for awhile and took over. Even then they would just say bron taught him.

Only a following ass beta would sign up for that. Bron didnt inform kyrie he was coming back before his letter why would he have to tell him when he's out

 

[Supreme365]

Oh btw, remember when Bron's stans one over Kobe stans were that players love playing with Bron and never left him.


T'ill this day, you don't have one player saying they left because of Kobe.

And where on this did Kyrie say he left because of lebron

 

[360Waves]

The fact that this thread is on pace to surpass that KD catastrophe in posts, despite the fact that what KD did is waaaaay worse, is proof that y'all are some scorned ass bytches. LeBron on your minds 24/7 ass nikkas, y'all ain't even in here to talk about Kyrie just to push your same sorry ass agenda.

 

[1thouwow]

Y'all keep talking about all of the "clear" reasons Kyrie wanted to leave...

Why can't Kyrie himself give a "clear" answer then?

There's a place and time to be political correct and when to not burn bridges

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

"Like I said if we dont do better this year we gon re-unite and do bigger and better things"






Did LeBron James tell Dwyane Wade he wants to reunite?

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

The fact that this thread is on pace to surpass that KD catastrophe in posts, despite the fact that what KD did is waaaaay worse, is proof that y'all are some scorned ass bytches. LeBron on your minds 24/7 ass nikkas, y'all ain't even in here to talk about Kyrie just to push your same sorry ass agenda.

Most of the posts are lebron fans complaining about kyrie leaving and not giving them a reason,

And lebron fans saying how horrible kyrie is





U cant make this shyt up

 

[Regular_P]

I wish he woulda said what everyone already suspects: LeBron is leaving after this season and I'm not getting stuck here with this capped out team to take all the blame afterwards.

 

[Rigby.]

T'ill this day, you don't have one player saying they left because of Kobe

Is Dwight not a NBA player?