Kyrie Irving has asked the Cavs to trade him; Lebron blindsided by trade request

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Marc Spector said:
this is fascinating for a few reasons.

1. Is Kyrie wanting out because the writing is on the wall about LeBron leaving? IMO the bigger question is would LeBron be that obtuse to think his legacy would be unblemished by leaving Cleveland again?

2. Lets say Kyrie is leaving for purely "selfish" reasons (wanting to be the man, the focal point of the organization)....I honestly cant blame him. Looking at other guys that he may be of equal talent with (Wall, Harden, IT3,), Kyrie is indeed on the outside looking in as far as being of their stature. While he's still quite young (25) he isn't getting any younger either. His early career woes on the Cavs really cant be blamed on him as he was never THAT type of player to lead them out of the pit they were in. Only a handfull of NBA players in history have been THAT good.

3. I love LeBron, he's better than Kobe, top 5 of all time...but the chickens are really coming home to roost. Objectively speaking, this Cavs was constructed well and to WIN NOW. But the problem with winning now is you have to exchange youth for vets and if you DONT win now, you're stuck with a stagnant team.

Not to mention we've talked ad nauseam about Lebrons play style. Great for assists, points and rebounds for Bron but revolves around him too much. To a fault.

Kyrie got his shots true, but its possible that he's asking for MORE in terms of control of the offense. He may be savvy enough to realize that ball movement is becoming more and more a treasured asset in the NBA. And you're not prying the ball out of Lebron hands unless they're cold and dead.

So you're stuck with a aging team that has to leverage its future, with a mercurial superstar, to get better.

A team with not enough ball movement or versatile players to contend with the current Golden State team.

A team with no competent coach or GM for that matter to get all of this straightened out.

Thats where the Cavs are at now and this is Lebrons fault.

I don't want to penalize Lebron and the Cavs for not being perfect in their decision making.

But in an increasingly unselfish NBA, one that is now asking more of its front offices, coaches and players collectively....the disconnect is painfully glaring.

If the Cavs had a "all in for the team" mentality like the Warriors or Spurs, I don't think kyrie wants to leave. But when you're stuck on a ship headed for a iceberg with a captain who WILL NOT change course yet is known to abandon ship....why stay on that ship?
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Kyrie is not on Harden's level in terms of being able to carry a team.
 
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DonKnock said:
Kyrie is not on Harden's level in terms of being able to carry a team.
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Dude is In a system..he doesn't carry the team.. Kylie literally carried cabs before LeBron.... carrying a team requires a special player.... this generation only has a few that carried a team succesfully... LeBron before he went to heat..maybe form but jet was the shyt...

Everyone else failed before the help
 
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G-Zeus said:
Dude is In a system..he doesn't carry the team.. Kylie literally carried cabs before LeBron.... carrying a team requires a special player.... this generation only has a few that carried a team succesfully... LeBron before he went to heat..maybe form but jet was the shyt...

Everyone else failed before the help
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youre an idiot. harden carried the rockets to 55 wins before dantoni, with dwight howard missing more than half the season. he is a legit MVP player
 
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kirie new bout Bron bouncing...so hes getting out first.... they will figure out some s+t with rose and melo for kirie...and kirie gets on a the new Knicks.. Bron gets rose and melo..(later Wade)
 
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kirie new bout Bron bouncing...so hes getting out first.... they will figure out some s+t with rose and melo for kirie...and kirie gets on a the new Knicks.. Bron gets rose and melo..(later Wade)
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why would melo even want this ? if i was him id scratch the cavs off the list. rockets or bust
 
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:pacspit: @ Durant....with one move this nikka literally destroyed the EAST for years to come...:francis: The fukkery is Priceless tho :wow: the whole league literally unrecognizable and the finals was only this past June :damn: Silver knew damn well what he was saying when he said Super teams good for the league...:smugdraper: Cuz 6 different story lines emerging over the next year.:mindblown:.and we ain't even hit 2018 free agency yet :ohlawd: Game of Thrones ain't never been this good...:steviej:
 
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heh.. still far and away the best eastern team...

as a rocket u get to deal in the wild west.. only to have to face the warriors... then the cavs
 
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