Kyrie: For first time in career, I have a guy that can close besides myself

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Stats without context don't mean anything

Bron has had 2 of the best offensive players in the league on his teams since he went to Miami which takes pressure off him and gets him a better look

And the difficulty of the shot isn't known from just seeing a number


I only deal with facts

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I'm as big a Bronsexual as anyone, but I can actually kind of see where Kyrie was coming from

I'm trusting LeBron with the ball in any clutch situation, over any player in the history of the game, because he will always make the right play whether it's to score or pass or take a foul, etc. and 8 times out of 10 you will get a positive result

But when we're talking about pure shot making, players like KD and Kyrie are lethal from any area of the floor and it's a 60/40 ball if they're taking a defender on ISO and either pulling up or taking it to the hole. LeBron has always been pretty shaky from 3 point range and is not that kind of blacktop player who gets saucy on a defender.
 

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But you literally just quoted a post of him hitting clutch jumpers....

even if he did take all layups in the clutch (which it’s not , you can just YouTube his clutch playoffs jumpers )

You’d rather have a guy that bricks jumpers in the clutch over A guy that coverts layups in the clutch?

What kind of sense does that make dude?


Yep, shyt like this is why sports discussions is trash these days. These dudes are emotional messes making emotional arguments.

"X player doesnt do this!"

--Posts factual statistics, video and logs of X player doing that consistently--

"That doesn't count because I say it doesnt"


At some point you have to realize its like arguing with women. (silly women I mean, no disrespect intended) Their argument is rooted in emotion, so the facts don't matter because the facts don't do shyt but strengthen their emotional response to shyt. Thats not a debate or a discussion at all at that point. Its just nonsense.
 

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Its because they know he's just as good or better than kobe/jordan and it really eats at them.
Nah, it's because everyone on his team is diminished to prop him up. Wade went from a top 3 player to Hersey Hawkins in the eyes of his fans. First game of the year Gordan Hayward broke his leg everyone claimed Boston's season was over. Boston makes the playoffs, LeBron beats them and somehow it's one the greatest feats in sports History.
 

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I muffed up the details slightly because he was talking about landing Kyrie with PG13.

There original trades were a 3-team trade that would land PG13 and Bledsoe for Kyrie and the pick, and a three-team deal that would have landed Butler for Love.

Cleveland supposedly had verbal agreement from the teams on at least part of the trades but dropped them cause LBJ wouldn't commit to staying past 2018.
So the Cavs get those two. Phoenix would have gotten Kyrie. Butler for Love. So what the hell would the Pacers have gotten? Or just the pick?
 

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:mjlol: Dame really loves Bron tho. I remember him shytting on Kyrie for leaving...said something like he can’t see who wouldn’t want to play with Lebron...

Sad part is Bron & Kyrie were absolute dynamite together. And their ring will always be the most epic out of any of the rings Bron has.

Not to mention a scorer like Kyrie game would always benefit from a playmaker like Bron as opposed to another scorer like KD.

Maybe one day he’ll get it....maybe not doe:manny:
 

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The deal would have had the Suns sending their pick to Indiana too.

Never heard about that. Only the PG deal

Heard it was a 3way with Denver
Nuggets got Love (really wanted him and he would have been perfect)
Pacers got Gary Harris
Cavs got PG
 

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Yep, shyt like this is why sports discussions is trash these days. These dudes are emotional messes making emotional arguments.

"X player doesnt do this!"

--Posts factual statistics, video and logs of X player doing that consistently--

"That doesn't count because I say it doesnt"


At some point you have to realize its like arguing with women. (silly women I mean, no disrespect intended) Their argument is rooted in emotion, so the facts don't matter because the facts don't do shyt but strengthen their emotional response to shyt. Thats not a debate or a discussion at all at that point. Its just nonsense.

I thought more of Trump supporters than women when you said that.

Try to argue that Trump is racist to a Trump supporter. I have a list of 50+ examples of Trump being racist. It makes NO difference to them. LeBron haters are exactly the same way.
 

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Never heard about that. Only the PG deal

Heard it was a 3way with Denver
Nuggets got Love (really wanted him and he would have been perfect)
Pacers got Gary Harris
Cavs got PG
I remembered the Suns-Pacers deal well cause I had been arguing for the Cavs to get them and posters thought I was talking crazy, then it broke that it was really on the table.

This article says that Griffin getting dismissed by that idiot owner is what killed the deal, but other articles say that LBJ refusing to commit past 2018 was the issue, and another one says that the Suns not wanting to give up the #4 pick is what sank it (that certainly didn't work out well for them). My guess is that if Gilbert had been willing to risk LBJ leaving, Griffin would have figured out a way to make it happen.

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