Reid2Achieve
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Cavs need to go ahead and get Jose Calderon off of us.
I would consider Shumpert for Lou Williams too
I would consider Shumpert for Lou Williams too
Kyle Korver Traded To Cavs for Mike Dunleavy, Mo Williams & 2019 1st rd pick
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ShoryukenHaduken
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Cavs just need David magic trades griffin to get deron williams then
Teko
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Curry is more of a liability for GS. He is the guy Cleveland goes to for easy buckets. Korver will be fine.
This. Funny thing is, every time Kyrie is on him, he passes the ball and doesn't get involved thereafterevery coli poster is a NBA analyst/expert...im still waiting for Curry to expose Kyrie on defense...
He was 37-years-old and had just been told the previous season to sit his ass on the bench behind Avery Bradley.
That same year the Lakers had Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Antawn Jamison. That's the most stacked squad in NBA history!
Because all that matters is names and not numbers, right?
That's the problem with you numbers are everything guys. Do you think when on the court Steve Kerr has ever garnered the attention that Ray Allen did
Steve Kerr is literally the highest % three-point shooter in NBA history. He not only led the NBA in 3pt% multiple times, he won the three-point contest the next year and hit the series-winning three in Game 6 of the NBA Finals. You look up any list of "greatest three-point shooters in NBA history" and he's top-ten. On a lot of lists he's top-five.
Steve Kerr averaged nearly 9ppg on 52% 3pt-shooting that year. He was the NBA's first 50-50-90 shooter ever. What kind of idiot would you have to be to leave a 50% 3pt shooter open under any circumstances?
And the point wasn't that Steve is better than Ray Allen. It's that Steve Kerr was in his prime in 1996 and yet the Bulls were so stacked they were bringing him in as the 7th or 8th man. The teams they faced weren't built like that.
Remember, this was in an era so weak that the 1996 Sonics 7th man off the bench was Vincent Askew, the 1997 Jazz 7th man off the bench was rookie Shandon Anderson, and the 1998 Jazz 7th man off the bench was Chris Morris. Compared to the competition, the Bulls were loaded.
Nikka just mentioned Jeb
Jud Buechler his 40 threes that year on 44% shooting and he was their ELEVENTH guy off the bench playing just 10 minutes/game. A lot of the teams they were playing only ran 6-7 deep.
He had some big baskets in Game 4 (the turning point of the series) against the Knicks in the ECSF and hit clutch threes in both their close games against the Magic in the ECF. In the 1998 Finals, Buechler hit as many threes as Stockton and one fewer than Hornacek. And the only guy on the Jazz who hit more was freaking Bryon Russell (6-21).
The point wasn't that Jud Buechler was this huge difference maker. He only hit a couple threes a series, four at most. It was that no team in the NBA has the gang of shooters on deck that Chicago had. Kerr at PG hitting 122 threes at a 52% clip, Jordan at SG hitting 111 threes at a 43% clip, Buechler at SG hitting 40 threes at a 44% clip, Pippen at SF hitting 150 threes at a 37% clip, Kukoc at SF hitting 87 threes at a 40% clip. None of their opponents had five shooters putting up numbers like that.
In the 1998 Finals the Jazz only made 13 threes in the whole series. In the 1992 Finals the Blazers only made 10. Both of those teams had only 1 player make more than 3 threes the whole series and only three players make more than 1. That's how weak some of these other teams were shooting compared to the Bulls - the Bulls could double or triple their threes in a game, and it was coming from five different guys.
Love and Bosh or Kuckoc
You're comparing the #3 guys on the Cavs and Heat to the 6th-man on the Bulls, in an expansion year that was so weak that the 6th-men on the other teams they faced were Chris Gatling (1st round), Hubert Davis (ECSF), Anthony Bowie (ECF), and 34-year-old Sam Perkins (Finals).
So the real question is Toni Kukoc or Anthony Bowie?
That's the whole point you're missing. In the 1990s expansion era talent was weak as hell, and most teams, even title contenders, were playing stiffs in their 4-6 slots and had nothing at all beyond that. The Bulls had the perfect fit slotted in at every position AND had shooters for miles coming off the bench in a way no other team did.
The MAJORITY of the NBA All-Defensive 1st Team on one squad.
The best rebounders in the NBA at multiple positions.
The best 3pt-shooter in the NBA and elite shooters running five-deep.
The best coaching staff in the NBA.
Three 1st-ballot Hall of Famers on the same squad AND a 1st-ballot HOF coach.
How the hell is that not a stacked squad? You're the best defensive team in the NBA and at or near the top of the NBA in assists, rebounds, steals, and 3pt-shooting, but supposedly that's all Jordan?
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I'm late as hell but who is The Clapping One?
SadimirPutin
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He was 37-years-old and had just been told the previous season to sit his ass on the bench behind Avery fukking Bradley.
That same year the Lakers had Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Antawn Jamison. That's the most stacked squad in NBA history!
Because all that matters is names and not numbers, right?
Steve Kerr is literally the highest % three-point shooter in NBA history. He not only led the NBA in 3pt% multiple times, he won the three-point contest the next year and hit the series-winning three in Game 6 of the NBA Finals. You look up any list of "greatest three-point shooters in NBA history" and he's top-ten. On a lot of lists he's top-five.
Steve Kerr averaged nearly 9ppg on 52% 3pt-shooting that year. He was the NBA's first 50-50-90 shooter ever. What kind of idiot would you have to be to leave a 50% 3pt shooter open under any circumstances?
And the point wasn't that Steve is better than Ray Allen. It's that Steve Kerr was in his prime in 1996 and yet the Bulls were so stacked they were bringing him in as the 7th or 8th man. The teams they faced weren't built like that.
Remember, this was in an era so weak that the 1996 Sonics 7th man off the bench was Vincent Askew, the 1997 Jazz 7th man off the bench was rookie Shandon Anderson, and the 1998 Jazz 7th man off the bench was Chris Morris. Compared to the competition, the Bulls were loaded.
Jud Buechler his 40 threes that year on 44% shooting and he was their ELEVENTH guy off the bench playing just 10 minutes/game. A lot of the teams they were playing only ran 6-7 deep.
He had some big baskets in Game 4 (the turning point of the series) against the Knicks in the ECSF and hit clutch threes in both their close games against the Magic in the ECF. In the 1998 Finals, Buechler hit as many threes as Stockton and one fewer than Hornacek. And the only guy on the Jazz who hit more was freaking Bryon Russell (6-21).
The point wasn't that Jud Buechler was this huge difference maker. He only hit a couple threes a series, four at most. It was that no team in the NBA has the gang of shooters on deck that Chicago had. Kerr at PG hitting 122 threes at a 52% clip, Jordan at SG hitting 111 threes at a 43% clip, Buechler at SG hitting 40 threes at a 44% clip, Pippen at SF hitting 150 threes at a 37% clip, Kukoc at SF hitting 87 threes at a 40% clip. None of their opponents had five shooters putting up numbers like that.
In the 1998 Finals the Jazz only made 13 threes in the whole series. In the 1992 Finals the Blazers only made 10. Both of those teams had only 1 player make more than 3 threes the whole series and only three players make more than 1. That's how weak some of these other teams were shooting compared to the Bulls - the Bulls could double or triple their threes in a game, and it was coming from five different guys.
You're comparing the #3 guys on the Cavs and Heat to the 6th-man on the Bulls, in an expansion year that was so weak that the 6th-men on the other teams they faced were Chris Gatling (1st round), Hubert Davis (ECSF), Anthony Bowie (ECF), and 34-year-old Sam Perkins (Finals).
So the real question is Toni Kukoc or Anthony Bowie?
That's the whole point you're missing. In the 1990s expansion era talent was weak as hell, and most teams, even title contenders, were playing stiffs in their 4-6 slots and had nothing at all beyond that. The Bulls had the perfect fit slotted in at every position AND had shooters for miles coming off the bench in a way no other team did.
The MAJORITY of the NBA All-Defensive 1st Team on one squad.
The best rebounders in the NBA at multiple positions.
The best 3pt-shooter in the NBA and elite shooters running five-deep.
The best coaching staff in the NBA.
Three 1st-ballot Hall of Famers on the same squad AND a 1st-ballot HOF coach.
How the hell is that not a stacked squad? You're the best defensive team in the NBA and at or near the top of the NBA in assists, rebounds, steals, and 3pt-shooting, but supposedly that's all Jordan?
These points are so good that I dont think people could have a serious rebuttal
But this is the coli so I know they sure as hell will try
Malik1time
What you looking at?
That would be the worst decision everTake Rondo
He was 37-years-old and had just been told the previous season to sit his ass on the bench behind Avery fukking Bradley.
That same year the Lakers had Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Antawn Jamison. That's the most stacked squad in NBA history!
Because all that matters is names and not numbers, right?
Steve Kerr is literally the highest % three-point shooter in NBA history. He not only led the NBA in 3pt% multiple times, he won the three-point contest the next year and hit the series-winning three in Game 6 of the NBA Finals. You look up any list of "greatest three-point shooters in NBA history" and he's top-ten. On a lot of lists he's top-five.
Steve Kerr averaged nearly 9ppg on 52% 3pt-shooting that year. He was the NBA's first 50-50-90 shooter ever. What kind of idiot would you have to be to leave a 50% 3pt shooter open under any circumstances?
And the point wasn't that Steve is better than Ray Allen. It's that Steve Kerr was in his prime in 1996 and yet the Bulls were so stacked they were bringing him in as the 7th or 8th man. The teams they faced weren't built like that.
Remember, this was in an era so weak that the 1996 Sonics 7th man off the bench was Vincent Askew, the 1997 Jazz 7th man off the bench was rookie Shandon Anderson, and the 1998 Jazz 7th man off the bench was Chris Morris. Compared to the competition, the Bulls were loaded.
Jud Buechler his 40 threes that year on 44% shooting and he was their ELEVENTH guy off the bench playing just 10 minutes/game. A lot of the teams they were playing only ran 6-7 deep.
He had some big baskets in Game 4 (the turning point of the series) against the Knicks in the ECSF and hit clutch threes in both their close games against the Magic in the ECF. In the 1998 Finals, Buechler hit as many threes as Stockton and one fewer than Hornacek. And the only guy on the Jazz who hit more was freaking Bryon Russell (6-21).
The point wasn't that Jud Buechler was this huge difference maker. He only hit a couple threes a series, four at most. It was that no team in the NBA has the gang of shooters on deck that Chicago had. Kerr at PG hitting 122 threes at a 52% clip, Jordan at SG hitting 111 threes at a 43% clip, Buechler at SG hitting 40 threes at a 44% clip, Pippen at SF hitting 150 threes at a 37% clip, Kukoc at SF hitting 87 threes at a 40% clip. None of their opponents had five shooters putting up numbers like that.
In the 1998 Finals the Jazz only made 13 threes in the whole series. In the 1992 Finals the Blazers only made 10. Both of those teams had only 1 player make more than 3 threes the whole series and only three players make more than 1. That's how weak some of these other teams were shooting compared to the Bulls - the Bulls could double or triple their threes in a game, and it was coming from five different guys.
You're comparing the #3 guys on the Cavs and Heat to the 6th-man on the Bulls, in an expansion year that was so weak that the 6th-men on the other teams they faced were Chris Gatling (1st round), Hubert Davis (ECSF), Anthony Bowie (ECF), and 34-year-old Sam Perkins (Finals).
So the real question is Toni Kukoc or Anthony Bowie?
That's the whole point you're missing. In the 1990s expansion era talent was weak as hell, and most teams, even title contenders, were playing stiffs in their 4-6 slots and had nothing at all beyond that. The Bulls had the perfect fit slotted in at every position AND had shooters for miles coming off the bench in a way no other team did.
The MAJORITY of the NBA All-Defensive 1st Team on one squad.
The best rebounders in the NBA at multiple positions.
The best 3pt-shooter in the NBA and elite shooters running five-deep.
The best coaching staff in the NBA.
Three 1st-ballot Hall of Famers on the same squad AND a 1st-ballot HOF coach.
How the hell is that not a stacked squad? You're the best defensive team in the NBA and at or near the top of the NBA in assists, rebounds, steals, and 3pt-shooting, but supposedly that's all Jordan?
Too much logic. The servers might crash.
IllmaticDelta
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He was 37-years-old and had just been told the previous season to sit his ass on the bench behind Avery fukking Bradley.
That same year the Lakers had Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Antawn Jamison. That's the most stacked squad in NBA history!
Because all that matters is names and not numbers, right?
Steve Kerr is literally the highest % three-point shooter in NBA history. He not only led the NBA in 3pt% multiple times, he won the three-point contest the next year and hit the series-winning three in Game 6 of the NBA Finals. You look up any list of "greatest three-point shooters in NBA history" and he's top-ten. On a lot of lists he's top-five.
Steve Kerr averaged nearly 9ppg on 52% 3pt-shooting that year. He was the NBA's first 50-50-90 shooter ever. What kind of idiot would you have to be to leave a 50% 3pt shooter open under any circumstances?
And the point wasn't that Steve is better than Ray Allen. It's that Steve Kerr was in his prime in 1996 and yet the Bulls were so stacked they were bringing him in as the 7th or 8th man. The teams they faced weren't built like that.
Remember, this was in an era so weak that the 1996 Sonics 7th man off the bench was Vincent Askew, the 1997 Jazz 7th man off the bench was rookie Shandon Anderson, and the 1998 Jazz 7th man off the bench was Chris Morris. Compared to the competition, the Bulls were loaded.
Jud Buechler his 40 threes that year on 44% shooting and he was their ELEVENTH guy off the bench playing just 10 minutes/game. A lot of the teams they were playing only ran 6-7 deep.
He had some big baskets in Game 4 (the turning point of the series) against the Knicks in the ECSF and hit clutch threes in both their close games against the Magic in the ECF. In the 1998 Finals, Buechler hit as many threes as Stockton and one fewer than Hornacek. And the only guy on the Jazz who hit more was freaking Bryon Russell (6-21).
The point wasn't that Jud Buechler was this huge difference maker. He only hit a couple threes a series, four at most. It was that no team in the NBA has the gang of shooters on deck that Chicago had. Kerr at PG hitting 122 threes at a 52% clip, Jordan at SG hitting 111 threes at a 43% clip, Buechler at SG hitting 40 threes at a 44% clip, Pippen at SF hitting 150 threes at a 37% clip, Kukoc at SF hitting 87 threes at a 40% clip. None of their opponents had five shooters putting up numbers like that.
In the 1998 Finals the Jazz only made 13 threes in the whole series. In the 1992 Finals the Blazers only made 10. Both of those teams had only 1 player make more than 3 threes the whole series and only three players make more than 1. That's how weak some of these other teams were shooting compared to the Bulls - the Bulls could double or triple their threes in a game, and it was coming from five different guys.
You're comparing the #3 guys on the Cavs and Heat to the 6th-man on the Bulls, in an expansion year that was so weak that the 6th-men on the other teams they faced were Chris Gatling (1st round), Hubert Davis (ECSF), Anthony Bowie (ECF), and 34-year-old Sam Perkins (Finals).
So the real question is Toni Kukoc or Anthony Bowie?
That's the whole point you're missing. In the 1990s expansion era talent was weak as hell, and most teams, even title contenders, were playing stiffs in their 4-6 slots and had nothing at all beyond that. The Bulls had the perfect fit slotted in at every position AND had shooters for miles coming off the bench in a way no other team did.
The MAJORITY of the NBA All-Defensive 1st Team on one squad.
The best rebounders in the NBA at multiple positions.
The best 3pt-shooter in the NBA and elite shooters running five-deep.
The best coaching staff in the NBA.
Three 1st-ballot Hall of Famers on the same squad AND a 1st-ballot HOF coach.
How the hell is that not a stacked squad? You're the best defensive team in the NBA and at or near the top of the NBA in assists, rebounds, steals, and 3pt-shooting, but supposedly that's all Jordan?
dank givin out that work
IllmaticDelta
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Bron's going to fukk around and get elected President 
