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Kyle Korver Traded To Cavs for Mike Dunleavy, Mo Williams & 2019 1st rd pick
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I think thats the biggest point they wanted him to rot in cleveland the first go around and have him sit back and see the other teams improve and his FO could not
they wanted him to put up monster numbers and get kicked out the 2nd round over and over
but being a student of the game and seen what happens to those players that never had the players around team
(I.E Wilkins richmond and many others are afterthoughts)
He said fukk that I'm not going out like that
If people remember they was going in on him at 23-24 years of age like he not shyt i still can't believe he avg 38-8-8 and he was getting shyt on for not doing enough
Even with the Heat lebron looked around and seen them cut mike miller for money reasons
and thought how the fukk you cutting mike miller for money reason when he alone boosted the cash flow in the team let alone with bosh and wade
When he went back to the cavs i bet the meeting he said you will go over the fukking cap
my name alone brings in 500 million to the city you can eat 10 mill
superunknown23
Superstar
He must be the first person ever who regrets moving from Cleveland to LA
He must be the first person ever who regrets moving from Cleveland to LA
Lol Go down Jordan's rosters compared to Bron, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq,Kareem
You do realize that Jordan wasn't playing any of those teams, right?
Jordan won his games in an era when 6 expansion teams were added in just 7 years. ALL the rosters were crappy back then.
To be able to have 3 HOFers AND a HOF coach, to have 3 NBA 1st-team All-Defensive starting out of 5, to have the best rebounders in the NBA at three different positions and big men going deep, to have the flexibility to bring Kukoc and Kerr off the bench, to have great shooters going five deep....that was FAR better than what other teams were bringing in the 1990s.
It's stupid to compare them to stacked teams in other eras, but just look at the teams you even named. The Celtics and Lakers were stacked, and I point that out just as often as I point out that the Bulls were stacked, but at least the Celtics/Lakers had to play each other. Shaq-Kobe weren't any more stacked from #3 on than Jordan-Pippen were - it was a similar example of two HOFers and a HOF coach having all the right pieces they needed at the other positions. And Lebron is playing in a FAR more talented era, where there hasn't been an expansion team for 15 years and talent is being pulled from all other the globe while bball popularity was at an all-time high when the current players were developing.
I meant 6th man, like I said in the other places, it as a typo. And I compared him to other 6th men, not 6th options. You're expending a lot of energy on that point.
But it's stupid to compare "options" to "options" as if offense is all that matters. Dennis Rodman was a HOF player who was 1st-team All-Defensive team that year and still the most talented rebounder in the league. He was a more important piece than Toni Kukoc. If you want to continue your game of comparing depth in a weak era to depth in a far deeper era, you at least have to back off and compare prime Kukoc to freaking near-retired Shane Battier.
The 1996 Magic that the Bulls faced in the ECF were so decimated that in Game 4 they started Anthony Bowie (fell out of the league after that game to play in Italy) and Jon Koncak (retired after that game). Their two guys off the bench were Brooks Thompson (was barely in the league to start with and soon would be dropped) and Donald Royal (was barely in the league and about to retire).
The 1996 Sonics that the Bulls faced in the Finals were starting Frank Brickowski and had a close-to-retirement Nate McMillan as their 7th man.
The 1997 Heat that the Bulls faced in the ECF were starting rookie Voshon Lenard.
The 1997 Jazz that the Bulls faced in the Finals were starting rookie Greg Ostertag at center and had Greg Foster as their 6th man. The Bulls signed Greg Foster off the Greek league the previous year, then dropped him after two months, then he was signed and waived by the freaking expansion Timberwolves next, but the Jazz were using him as their 6th man!
The 1997 Rockets that the Jazz had faced in the WCF were starting rookie Matt Maloney.
Those were the top teams in their respective conference, and the league was so weak that they were starting guys who were either rookies, about to retire, who who never should have been in the league in the first place. It's as if the Bulls had had Jason Caffey or Bill Wellington or Jud Buechler in their starting lineup, when those guys were buried at the end of their bench.
I still don't know why you're comparing these guys straight-up. They never played each other, and 1996 was a very different era than 2013. You were the one who lied about how many ppg Kerr scored and then tried to use that lie to claim that ppg proved that Kerr wasn't important.
Kerr scored 8.4ppg on 52% shooting, 52% from three, and 92% from the line. That is a FANTASTIC asset to have on the bench as a 7th man. Can you imagine how much Lebron would like 1996 Kerr to be coming off his bench right now....and this is a far more LOADED era than 1996 was!
The point was that no one else in 1996 was starting three HOF players AND two other quality starters AND bringing a scorer like Kukoc in as the 6th man AND having a shooter as good as Kerr as the 7th-man on top of that. The other guys were being forced to give big minutes to Wellington/Buechler type players that the Bulls had waiting on deck at the end of the bench.
Meanwhile, 2013 Ray Allen had just been benched the previous season for Avery Bradley. Stop hyping him up as if 37-year-old Ray was playing at some HOF level that year. He was a good asset off the bench and that's it....just like Kerr was.
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O.iatlhawksfan
Devoted Joel Embiid hater
Trade should be off since Dunleavy refuses to show up
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
Yes, every player has a built-in no-trade clause if they just choose to not show up
ALonelyDad
Veteran
We will gladly send him back if he wants to
What's so bad about ATL?
Dwight Coward is there
G-Zeus
G-Zeus Chrystler...the brehsident
gsw on the prowl for MDJ
not him again