Kool Herc on The Combat Jack Show

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because he along with the other HipHop dj's was actually adapting American Funk/Disco music along with Disco dj'ing techniques. Disco djing is totally different from theJamaican sound system style. For example




I don't how anyone could look at the sound system turntable operators and think HipHop djing came from that considering they didn't even use 2 turntables and a mixer for continuous mixing. That came straight from Disco.





Herc tried to the Disco Djing style but he never caught on. Disco djing is where Herc got the idea to use 2 copies of the same record with 2 turntables. They never did that in Jamaican sound system culture. For example

This video is a good example of the transition from pure Disco Djing to HipHop djing before the scratching and other tricks came in. This is like playing the break parts but with smooth disco djing skills.




This is a great example when it fully came into it's own and added new ideas such as back spinning and scratching






You will not find anything like this in the Jamaican Sound system operators because it relates more to Disco










So what do you think caused this false (in your words) narrative? Why isn't disco DJing ever given credit its influence on hip hop?
 

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So what do you think caused this false (in your words) narrative? Why isn't disco DJing ever given credit its influence on hip hop?

The Disco connection to HipHop has always been acknowledged but people forget because the picture that's always painted is that HipHop was anti Disco.


Disco is HipHops father along with Funk

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"Disco Twins"





"Disco King Mario"

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Pete Dj Jones, the DJ who taught Grandmaster Flash how to DJ in the Disco style





If you listen to the herc interview and his "break" records 2 of them he mentioned were disco



 

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^^ @IllmaticDelta Yeah I understand the music had a huge impact on hip hop. Rappers Delight = Good times and all that

But I'm talking specfically about the technical skills of the DJ. I've never seen disco DJ's get credit for 2 turntable mixing until this thread. I've never seen the name of disco DJ's get any mention
 

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But I'm talking specfically about the technical skills of the DJ. I've never seen disco DJ's get credit for 2 turntable mixing until this thread. I've never seen the name of disco DJ's get any mention

Yeah. 2 turntables for blends and 2 copies of the same record for manipulation mixing are Disco djing techniques. This happened so the dancers could dance all night without interruption.

3:08--> 4:14 On how Disco djing layed the foundations for HipHop

 

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Yeah. 2 turntables for blends and 2 copies of the same record for manipulation mixing are Disco djing techniques. This happened so the dancers could dance all night without interruption.

3:08--> 4:14 On how Disco djing layed the foundations for HipHop


Good shyt. I watched this when it aired, but they didn't emphasize that part so I didn't catch the significance
 

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Great interview. I'm not sure how ya'll heard Herc saying hip hop doesn't have Caribbean roots cuz I heard the opposite. Didnt he say that he got put on to music through his father and he was putting his own spin on the Jamaican sound system culture?

Afrika Bambaataa:


http://www.djhistory.com/interviews/afrika-bambaataa
I forgot what time stamp but he said that him and his father did share a system but he was saying it was more of a convenience for him to use his pops system versus using the influence of the sound system.
 

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I listened to this whole thing yesterday, was a good listen. Big up Herc.

People should have certainly made him and others of that ilk comfortable.
 

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Can't wait to listen to this one! :salute: @CombatJack for getting super legends in the house. Meanwhile JE are kicking bevel and squaresace and rambling on about "Carhartt girl" and doing piss weak interviews with "part 2 coming soon"
Man fukk JE and his substance-less interviews. Has some nikkas I wouldn't mind hearing from on there sometimes and I walk away with almost nothing. :pacspit:
 
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