Kofi Kingston’s win is the biggest face win at mania ever
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prophecypro
Hollywood North
WWE network productions should have been up on this and made something like this like they did with the women's evolution for the Youtube channel or to open up Raw or Smackdown
I dont think they realize what they have on their hands and they are always quick to try and make themselves seem like they got mainstream cultural importance
Where was the article montages of first black champion like they have for Hall of Fame announcements or Wrestlemania general news?
I dont think they realize what they have on their hands and they are always quick to try and make themselves seem like they got mainstream cultural importance
Where was the article montages of first black champion like they have for Hall of Fame announcements or Wrestlemania general news?
Dog Based Gremlin
Veteran
Far from it
avon barksdale
i want my corners
Get emotional about play fighting brehs
Nah Daniel Bryan is up there.
Heck, I was just a toddler but I hear Shawn's win at wrestlemania 12 was one hell of a moment too
Those 2 might edge him out simply because they were the main event
Heck, I was just a toddler but I hear Shawn's win at wrestlemania 12 was one hell of a moment too
Those 2 might edge him out simply because they were the main event
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
I disagree and it doesn't devalue Kofi's win at all
Daniel Bryan was a much bigger deal
Daniel Bryan was a much bigger deal
NOSaintsFan02
Superstar
Living in the moment too much.
It's all-time for sure, but it still doesn't touch Bryan's win at 30.
It's all-time for sure, but it still doesn't touch Bryan's win at 30.
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
Daniel Bryan was objectively the bigger moment, but Kofi's was by far the more impactful personally.
Bryan was already a multi time world champion by Mania, and he and Orton had already traded the title several times during their feud. The wow factor with Bryan came from the fact that he was supposed to face Sheamus until WWE's hand was forced.
Kofi had a bit of a push ten years ago until Orton wanted to be a little fakkit and got it derailed. Then he spent the next ten years in the midcard as a jobber or a transitional champ until New Day, which pretty much signaled the end of his singles career. He'd have his little Rumble saves and ladder match spots and then never come close to winning, and it looked for years like that was his ceiling. He and New Day probably would have been in the multi-team tag match or doing a skit with Elias until opportunity fell into his lap with Ali getting hurt, and he got so over they scrapped all their Mania plans and gave him not only his first world title, but both his first ever singles match at Mania and his first ever singles match for a world title.
So there's no question to me that Kofi's moment was much more impactful than Bryan's. If Bryan's never happened, he would still go down in the history books as a four- or five-time world champion, and he would have got another shot if he hadn't been injured.
If Kofi's never happens, who knows if or when he ever sniffs the world title picture outside of Money in the Bank or multi-man matches that he wouldn't win, and there was a very good chance he would have retired without a world championship.
The advantage Bryan's story had were a) it was much longer, and b) WWE being stubborn made it even bigger until they had no choice. They didn't make that mistake with Kofi because they almost immediately took the ball and ran with it.
Bryan was already a multi time world champion by Mania, and he and Orton had already traded the title several times during their feud. The wow factor with Bryan came from the fact that he was supposed to face Sheamus until WWE's hand was forced.
Kofi had a bit of a push ten years ago until Orton wanted to be a little fakkit and got it derailed. Then he spent the next ten years in the midcard as a jobber or a transitional champ until New Day, which pretty much signaled the end of his singles career. He'd have his little Rumble saves and ladder match spots and then never come close to winning, and it looked for years like that was his ceiling. He and New Day probably would have been in the multi-team tag match or doing a skit with Elias until opportunity fell into his lap with Ali getting hurt, and he got so over they scrapped all their Mania plans and gave him not only his first world title, but both his first ever singles match at Mania and his first ever singles match for a world title.
So there's no question to me that Kofi's moment was much more impactful than Bryan's. If Bryan's never happened, he would still go down in the history books as a four- or five-time world champion, and he would have got another shot if he hadn't been injured.
If Kofi's never happens, who knows if or when he ever sniffs the world title picture outside of Money in the Bank or multi-man matches that he wouldn't win, and there was a very good chance he would have retired without a world championship.
The advantage Bryan's story had were a) it was much longer, and b) WWE being stubborn made it even bigger until they had no choice. They didn't make that mistake with Kofi because they almost immediately took the ball and ran with it.
How was Daniel Bryan's win bigger? He has already been a world champion prior to WM 30. Kofi being in the company 11 years and being the second black WWE champion made it more emotional.
Breh Obama
First Breh President. Coli Prophet.
Emotional means more personal.
Daniel Bryans story had a much longer run and it was a very satisfying payoff
I saw more mainstream news sites covering Kofi's title win, so even objectively I'd say his is bigger.
An argument could be made for Austin's WM 14 win.
MrFirst2doit
All Star
Hogan beating Andre?