Kobe Has The Ball & You Need One Stop To Save Your Life....

[Professor Emeritus]

No joke, I'd be genuinely interested in seeing stats for shots made during the final 2 - 3 minutes of one or two possession games. Kobe delievered in those instances more consistently than anyone in the last 20 years. Especially more than anyone from '01 - '10. Those plays are objectively "clutch.".

Basketball Reference says that in playoff games when the score was within 3 points with less than 3 minutes to go, Kobe shot 39% for his career.

If you bump that up to scores within 5 points, Kobe is at 40%.

And yet, he still has the most game winners in the history of the sport. Please tell me who took and made as many game winners as Kobe and shot over 35% and @ inserting Lebron into it. Until he passes it nobody thinking about him. Kobe has more game winners overall.

Karl Malone made more free throws than Kobe or anyone else in NBA history, so is he the best free throw shooter?

If you get twice as many tries as anyone else then making slightly more in the end doesn't prove you were better at making them, it just proves that you were a bigger ballhog.

 

[Willie]

Not only did he nane Tony Allen, he merely gave proprs to Raja. With Kobe being the competitor he is, he absolutely respected Raja for not backing down and he has stated this repeatedly. I see much better than I hear, and Kobe averaged 42.3 a game vs Raja on that Suns team. In the playoffs, he averaged 27.9 vs Bell, which is higher than his career postseason average. He had two 50 point games on Raja in the span of less than a month.




Two weeks later he gave him 50 in game 6.

Gave him 40 in Utah and made him his bytch there, too. You can take Raja Bell and you'll be getting the ball out of the net. The reality is Tayshaun Prince gave Bean more trouble in one series in 2004 than Raja Bell did in his entire career. Bell isn't even in the discussion.

I agree with Tony Allen wholeheartedly. He just slipped my mind until I saw a post a few after mine mention him. T Prince solid answer too.

To act like Bell or Bowen isn’t a decent assessment is just poppycock

The list we were given is still shyt

Kobe literally gave most of those dudes buckets already



I’ll take my chances

Bell willing to really clothesline you...

Might not be getting the last shot off

 

[Bilz]

Why do I have to use a single defender? Kobe doesn't get his teammates involved unless the cops are interrogating him.

I'm sending the entire team at him and blocking his shyt. Check the avi.

 

[ISO]

ESPN researcher Alok Pattani, through an assist from Synergy Sports Tech's video tracking, examined every possession over the last six seasons where The Mamba and The King guarded each other on ball in "isolation" situations, the closest an NBA game offers to a "one-on-one" contest. There have been seven total meetings where this scenario has presented itself.

And here are the numbers: Kobe has scored 20 points (free throws included) on 27 isolation plays when guarded on-ball by LeBron, while LeBron has scored seven points on 13 isolation plays when guarded by Kobe. Bryant shot 9-for-28 (32%) from the field with two turnovers, while James was two-for-eight with just one gaffe.

Overall, Kobe went 6-16 vs. LeBron and had a sub-43% FG against LeBron led teams.

 

[Remote]

Why do I have to use a single defender? Kobe doesn't get his teammates involved unless the cops are interrogating him.

I'm sending the entire team at him and blocking his shyt. Check the avi.

Dirty



Even i wasnt going there.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Basketball Reference says that in playoff games when the score was within 3 points with less than 3 minutes to go, Kobe shot 39% for his career.

If you bump that up to scores within 5 points, Kobe is at 40%.






Karl Malone made more free throws than Kobe or anyone else in NBA history, so is he the best free throw shooter?

If you get twice as many tries as anyone else then making slightly more in the end doesn't prove you were better at making them, it just proves that you were a bigger ballhog.

Where in the thread does this say only playoffs? You keep trying to move it to playoffs to get a point across.

As stated, Kobe has the most game winners in the history of the NBA

I don’t give a fukk about Karl Malone or free throws. Did you see me bring up Lebrons poor free throw shooting in these moments? Stop goalpost moving and answer my OP

Kobe, got the ball, you need one player to stop him to save your life, who you choosing?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Where in the thread does this say only playoffs? You keep trying to move it to playoffs to get a point across.

I keep moving it to playoffs because that is the ONLY time that real pressure exists, that win-or-go-home pressure exists. That is where legacies are built.

You can't pretend to yourself that players give 1/10th the effort with 3 minutes left up 3 against the Charlotte Hornets in February that they give in a playoff match in May. Regular season games aren't where it's at. I'm sorry, for Kobestans it's a hard pill to swallow, but you know it's true.

As stated, Kobe has the most game winners in the history of the NBA

I don’t give a fukk about Karl Malone or free throws.

Just admit that you didn't understand the analogy. Volume makes doesn't mean you're good at something if they come along with volume misses. Someone who misses most of their game-winning shots doesn't suddenly become the best at it just because they continued to demand the ball for 20 years. Percentages matter.

Did you see me bring up Lebrons poor free throw shooting in these moments?

You can't bring it up because it's not true.

"Use the aforementioned definition of clutch time, LeBron James has attempted 868 clutch time free throws to date in his career, making 666 of them. That’s a 76.7 percent clutch time free throw percentage for James, quite a bit over his 74.5 career percentage on non-clutch time free throws."

The Lazy Narrative v. LeBron James' Fourth Quarter Free Throw Shooting: Case Closed | Waiting For Next Year

He's better on free throws in the playoffs than in the regular season too, and best of all (78%) in Game 7s.

Stop goalpost moving and answer my OP

Kobe, got the ball, you need one player to stop him to save your life, who you choosing?

I answered it with my first comment in the thread. Kobe will generally take low-percentage shots in those situations regardless of who is guarding him. A better player would roast a bad defender with an easy high-percentage shot and maybe make the low-percentage shot against a good defender. Kobe goes for the low-percentage shot every time. That's how you end up only shooting 31% on game-winners in the regular season and 25% in the playoffs.

 

[Goatpoacher]

Why do I have to use a single defender? Kobe doesn't get his teammates involved unless the cops are interrogating him.

I'm sending the entire team at him and blocking his shyt. Check the avi.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

I keep moving it to playoffs because that is the ONLY time that real pressure exists, that win-or-go-home pressure exists. That is where legacies are built.

Game winners and game winning shots exist not only in the playoffs. You know that dikkheads cause in that case no game winning shot would matter until April’s and may. Also the thread is plain and simple, Kobe got the ball, who’s do you choose to stop him? You making it more cause you just have a narrative to run & wlnt even further entertain that narrative but I will entertain this though

You can't pretend to yourself that players give 1/10th the effort with 3 minutes left up 3 against the Charlotte Hornets in February that they give in a playoff match in May. Regular season games aren't where it's at.

It’s actually simple, Kobe took, and made more game winning shots than anybody in the history of basketball. Everybody knows it and that’s why he’s praised for it.

That’s why GMs in the league picked him to take the last shot almost always

with the game on the line...

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/10/02/moves-predictions/

Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?

1. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 78.6%
2. Carmelo Anthony, Denver -- 7.1%
Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 7.1%
Also receiving votes: Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas; Dwyane Wade, Miami

Last year: Kobe Bryant -- 89.7%

https://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/10/02/moves-predictions/

Just admit that you didn't understand the analogy. Volume makes doesn't mean you're good at something if they come along with volume misses. Someone who misses most of their game-winning shots doesn't suddenly become the best at it just because they continued to demand the ball for 20 years. Percentages matter.

I’m gonna say this again. Kobe took, and made, more shots than anybody in the history of the NBA. It really is that simple

You can't bring it up because it's not true.

Oh wait I forgot only may and June matters, where’s he’s three 6 mafia in

 

[DrexlersFade]

6 for 24 I can put Steve Kerr on him

 

[10bandz]

a bunch of losers in this thread

Imagine real hoopers or black people in general in real life talking about Kobe like he aint shyt


go into the barbershop and say Melo is more clutch than Kobe "black" brehs

 

[BXKingPin82]

Joe Johnson>>>>>>>>>>>

:noreha:

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Rodman


What's Kobe gonna do against this

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Game winners and game winning shots exist not only in the playoffs. You know that dikkheads cause in that case no game winning shot would matter until April’s and may. Also the thread is plain and simple, Kobe got the ball, who’s do you choose to stop him? You making it more cause you just have a narrative to run & wlnt even further entertain that narrative but I will entertain this though

If you think that players face the same pressure in the regular season that they do in the playoffs, I have nothing to say to you.

We weren't talking about game-winners with that stat. We were talking about last 3 minutes. And a regular season game with 3 minutes to play against some shytty team is NOT the same as a playoff game with 3 minutes to play. You're a dumbass if you want to keep arguing that.

It’s actually simple, Kobe took, and made more game winning shots than anybody in the history of basketball.

And he missed more game-winning shots than anyone too. Doing something in volume doesn't mean that you're the best if your percentages suck. Don't know why you keep repeating the same shyt over and over again.

Oh wait I forgot only may and June matters, where’s he’s three 6 mafia in

Yeah, I post a stat based on 866 clutch free throws over LeBron's entire career and you post a stat based on 21 random cherry-picked free throws (who the fukk chose "last 15 seconds" as their criteria???) over just a little more than 1 regular season.

In LeBron's entire career he's shot 77% on clutch free throws. In the 2018 playoffs LeBron shot 7-9 (78%) on clutch free throws. But if you want to make him look bad, then doing something like picking just 1 regular season that fits your narrative and cherry picking a random "last 15 seconds" time frame tailored to whatever you can find to make LeBron's numbers look bad is the sort of dumbass shyt you'd need to do.

 

[Greenhornet]

Kobe actually hit the fade better when you draped on him
thats why I think Rodman or Tony Allen would be better.
You need someone to disrupt his footwork and rhythm
also someone who could congest that fade, Kawhi... Pippen and Wade are all gonna just float with him

Those wild defenders get your feet and gather all fukked up and mess up rhythm

some dude said Rodman couldnt guard perimeter

I always wondered, as a suns fan... why they didnt put Jrich on Kobe to contest better instead of 37 year old Grant Hill
that never made sense to me. Grant was one of those floaty dudes that Kobe actually likes to shoot over.