Klutch client & top 3 recruit Justin Edwards goes undrafted and is now on a two way contract.

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This comes after last year where Chris Livingston struggled at Kentucky (top 20 recruit) was the last pick in the draft last year. At least he got guaranteed money.

Rich was adamant that Bronny wouldn't take a 2 way contract..... However, maybe Justin really wanted to play for his hometown team.

Rich gonna stop fukking with John Calipari

People coming for Rich tho
 
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These kids are not one and done material, even at 20 years old. Check the EYBL thread on Cooper Flagg. Most should stay in school and are fundamentally poor in academics and athletics. It’s easy to look good against 15-17 year olds at 19 but college and the pros are littered with skilled grown men. In short, I believe teams need to start using draft capital on upperclassmen rather than these overrated one and dones.
 

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These kids are not one and done material, even at 20 years old. Check the EYBL thread on Cooper Flagg. Most should stay in school and are fundamentally poor in academics and athletics. It’s easy to look good against 15-17 year olds at 19 but college and the pros are littered with skilled grown men. In short, I believe teams need to start using draft capital on upperclassmen rather than these overrated one and dones.
It's on agents like Rich & the NBA to solve this problem.

Force kids to play at least two years. People have less of an excuse to leave after one year with NIL money.
 

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It's on agents like Rich & the NBA to solve this problem.

Force kids to play at least two years. People have less of an excuse to leave after one year with NIL money.
Yep. It’s bad and for what it’s worth, kids like Edwards usually have money men promoting them from college right up to the pros. These guys are picked from high school then get their pockets picked as adults. The kids play in basketball powerhouse programs right up to the pros and once they get there they get lost because everyone can go.
 

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These kids are not one and done material, even at 20 years old. Check the EYBL thread on Cooper Flagg. Most should stay in school and are fundamentally poor in academics and athletics. It’s easy to look good against 15-17 year olds at 19 but college and the pros are littered with skilled grown men. In short, I believe teams need to start using draft capital on upperclassmen rather than these overrated one and dones.

Perfectly said. For whatever reason it's been decided that one-and-done status is the only acceptable path for allegedly elite ballers. So kids beat up on kids in HS and the minute they face any adversity in college they bounce for the draft (often landing in the g-league). Can't even blame it on money because NIL ensures these guys will live very comfortably on campus in college. There are more incentives to stay in college now than ever before. But then again if you need to pay your handlers who got you to that point.....maybe that's what it is about. Getting rushed so the white men who got you this far can get paid.
 

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Perfectly said. For whatever reason it's been decided that one-and-done status is the only acceptable path for allegedly elite ballers. So kids beat up on kids in HS and the minute they face any adversity in college they bounce for the draft (often landing in the g-league). Can't even blame it on money because NIL ensures these guys will live very comfortably on campus in college. There are more incentives to stay in college now than ever before. But then again if you need to pay your handlers who got you to that point.....maybe that's what it is about. Getting rushed so the white men who got you this far can get paid.
Its easy to say now.

However, I think a large part of it is pride and family expectation. A lot of these kids just assumed they'd be pros at a specific time. Also that pride kicks in for some of them seeing their boys go first round or guys they outplayed/outranked in HS.

I'm actually shocked, but glad DJ Wagner didn't foolishly go pro. He was the #1 player of his HS class for like 3 years.
 

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he was projected to go late 2nd round at best and most mocks had him undrafted, he already had a New Balance deal while in college, I don't understand not staying in school and getting some more NIL money and trying to bounce back for a better soph season. dude played well to finish the season after he got out of his own head, should have rode that momentum into the next college season
 

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Perfectly said. For whatever reason it's been decided that one-and-done status is the only acceptable path for allegedly elite ballers. So kids beat up on kids in HS and the minute they face any adversity in college they bounce for the draft (often landing in the g-league). Can't even blame it on money because NIL ensures these guys will live very comfortably on campus in college. There are more incentives to stay in college now than ever before. But then again if you need to pay your handlers who got you to that point.....maybe that's what it is about. Getting rushed so the white men who got you this far can get paid.
Precisely. I’ve made my son walk onto every single program he’s played for including college. This way if he really wants it, he’s gotta earn it and nobody can take that away from him and he owes nobody but himself.

The shoe companies are the worst thing to happen to American hoops. They have these kids and their families reclassified multiple times all so they can get the opportunity to go to college for free and the hopes of getting one of the most coveted jobs in the world.

These Kids miss mostly all of their high school years, events like the prom and parties all so they can have a shot to play three years at best in the nba and knock up some troll who will make sure their life is a living hell for years to come. All while the guys who invested in them from 6th grade reap the rewards.

Then we get to sit back and watch them do foolishness and wonder why they spend and behave recklessly not realizing they never had that chance since it was all business from youth. Tearing their bodies apart before 25 becuase they never had a summer to chill. It’s insane that there are more billionaires in the country than there are NBA players and the players work for the billionaires yet people still push their kids to go pro.
 
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It's on agents like Rich & the NBA to solve this problem.

Force kids to play at least two years. People have less of an excuse to leave after one year with NIL money.
The problem is NBA rookie contracts. The whole point of rushing into the draft is to get the clock ticking on that second contract. I don't see a good solution. I was going to say If they tied the rookie contract length into years since high school then I think you'd see more prospects willing to stay an extra year or two. The problem with that is that it would hurt older prospects even more because teams wouldn't want to draft them knowing they'll get less years of cheap labor.
 

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The problem is NBA rookie contracts. The whole point of rushing into the draft is to get the clock ticking on that second contract. I don't see a good solution. I was going to say If they tied the rookie contract length into years since high school then I think you'd see more prospects willing to stay an extra year or two. The problem with that is that it would hurt older prospects even more because teams wouldn't want to draft them knowing they'll get less years of cheap labor.
That is fair.

KLutch probably uses THT as an example of getting paid big money in two years.
 
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