Kland Paul's co-author and staffer is a neo-confederate racist

[Type Username Here]

Bruh, I explicitly and specifically said in the modern political context. For some reason you responded with the equivalent of 'the Republican Party is the party of Lincoln.'

Can you explain to me how a progressive or Democrat using "states' rights" concept in modern times to advocate that the Federal Government is automatically being a racist as you originally claimed?

Or were you just talking out of your ass?

Who the fukk said anything about 100, 200 years ago?

If you hear a GOP rep or stan say "state rights" in 2013 they are talking about racist policies

And I dont know if I would call it "hijacked"... the GOP has been about fukking minorities over for at least the last 50 years. Even now in their bid for non-white male votes they make it clear that they are just looking to leverage power and when push comes to shove will stay loyal to their race... I mean base, loyal to their base So please stop playing coy like the GOP "changed". They've been the same racist paranoid impotent party for longer than any of us have been alive.

The person I was replying to says that anytime you hear the states' right concept, it is automatically meant as racist. Therefore, I asked him to back up his logic in a historical, legal or modern sense and he has failed to do that. Do you care to do it?

Can you tell me how a progressive using the term "states' rights" in order to prevent state-sanctioned Medical Marijuana laws from being derailed by the Federal Government is automatically racist?

I'm not playing coy at all. I'm saying that the term and concept of states' rights is a matter of political philosophy. The fact that racist GOP members hijacked the word to use it as a code doesn't negate that fact. It's not my fault that you are educated simply by Media political pundits. There exists an entire discipline of political philosophy where these concepts originated and are defined.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Bruh states using the legal framework of states rights has nothing to do with the fact that when a GOP representative or stan uses it it is to codify racist policies. U want historical examples of states rights being used to legalize racism... we could start with the Civil War Southern states were trying to use their sovereignty to make a legal justification for maintaining slavery. Back then the GOP was the party against slavery, but again, that was then, this is now... and "states rights" has always been a proxy for screwing black people over. It was the legal vehicle for slavery, the legal vehicle for segregation and now is the legal vehicle for anything the GOP can do to screw black people over in its bids to appeal to its base. I never said states rights isn't used by others for good... but as far as the GOP in 2013 goes, it's not.

 

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It was the legal vehicle for slavery, the legal vehicle for segregation and now is the legal vehicle for anything the GOP can do to screw black people over in its bids to appeal to its base. I never said states rights isn't used by others for good... but as far as the GOP in 2013 goes, it's not.

I conceded the bold in the first post I made in my reply to the poster.

My issue was that he said that anyone who uses that term is a racist. You have just said that is not true, which is the point I was originally making.

Don't understand what the issue is. GOP hijacked a perfect political philosophy concept, but it doesn't make the concept automatically invalid or racist. That's just silly uneducated nonsense.

Countries like China and North Korea are labeled as

"People's Republic of China"
"Democratic People's Republic of North Korea"

but neither are truly republics and North Korea is not democratic. People hijack terms all the time.

 

[Consigliere]

Can you explain to me how a progressive or Democrat using "states' rights" concept in modern times to advocate that the Federal Government is automatically being a racist as you originally claimed?

Or were you just talking out of your ass?

This was me... a few posts ago acknowledging that States Rights can be used for things other than racism. Even though its primarily been used as code for racism for the last 50 years:

"You could use the handle of a screwdriver to hammer nails. Doesn't change the primary purpose of the tool.....

...In the modern political context this is what States Rights entails."

I get it.

You think pushing for medical marijuana should be lauded as a smart use of States Rights and completely overshadows the ways its been used. Medical Marijuana has racially problematic elements to it when you look at who is getting the dispensary and farming permits to participate. There certainly aren't and wont be any minorities earning a profit from it in Colorado or Massachusetts, two states with incredibly high incarceration rates. So, aside from legal weed, which could be considered an exercise in privilege, what's your argument about?

 

[Type Username Here]

This was me... a few posts ago acknowledging that States Rights can be used for things other than racism. Even though its primarily been used as code for racism for the last 50 years:

"You could use the handle of a screwdriver to hammer nails. Doesn't change the primary purpose of the tool.....

...In the modern political context this is what States Rights entails."

I get it.

You think pushing for medical marijuana should be lauded as a smart use of States Rights and completely overshadows the ways its been used. Medical Marijuana has racially problematic elements to it when you look at who is getting the dispensary and farming permits to participate. There certainly aren't and wont be any minorities earning a profit from it in Colorado or Massachusetts, two states with incredibly high incarceration rates. So, aside from legal weed, which could be considered an exercise in privilege, what's your argument about?

Ok, so what you're saying that legalizing marijuana and medical marijuana is a racist act and that the people using the states' rights argument to keep the Federal Government away from what is sanctioned by the state is also racist?

I just want to be clear that is what you're saying before moving on to dismantle your argument? Don't want to misrepresent what you're saying.

 

[Walt]

Nah he left her...for being a ****** lover.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I mean, nothing's off the table, really.

Yo Walt the streets NEED you to speak on that MCHG fam

I need to give it another listen. I'm not really moved by it one way or another. I'll see how I feel after giving it a second spin today.

 

[Consigliere]

States Rights is always code for racism.

Its a beautiful idea wrapped around a turd.

This is what I said. This is what I meant. Fell free to dismantle it.