"King Kong Ain't Got Nothin on De. . .ontay" Wilder vs Ortiz 3/3 SHOWTIME Fight Thread

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merklman

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We know Wlad was champ for 10 years.
My statement wasn't who was champ longer, it was who had the most skill. Seems like you have poor reading comp.


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You know thats right.

Your point was completely laughable. The fact that the guy with 90% better boxing skills has never been champ mustve made you rethink that comment , no?

In a word - Jab.

Now fukk off :mjlol:
 

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Your point was completely laughable.

In a word - Jab.

Now fukk off :mjlol:

Jab, and jumping on someones back when you miss or clenching isn't great skill.
Ortiz has a superior jab, superior defense, superior footwork, better punch selection, better handspeed, and is a better ring general than wlad ever was. Even before his hper safe style with Manny
 

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I got respect for you pat.
So I'll ask you, what boxing skill does/did Wlad possess that was greater than Ortiz's skill.

Better Jab
Throws a better variety of punches
Better Footwork
Better Defense
Was able to control distance better

the only thing Ortiz really has over Wlad is the fact Ortiz had a better chin...and even then Wlad did face some punchers and only getting ko'ed 3 times in 69 pro fights...including a damn near 13 year gap between the 2nd and 3rd KO losses with who he faced is not bad at all
 

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Better Jab
Throws a better variety of punches
Better Footwork
Better Defense
Was able to control distance better

the only thing Ortiz really has over Wlad is the fact Ortiz had a better chin...and even then Wlad did face some punchers and only getting ko'ed 3 times in 69 pro fights...including a damn near 13 year gap between the 2nd and 3rd KO losses with who he faced is not bad at all
We'll just agree to disagree on that. clenching, jumping on backs, better footwork means you don't have to rely on clenching as your defense, control of distance means you do what Ortiz did tonight not being all the way out of range or clenching and jumping on smaller men's backs.

But hey different opinions, I respect yours so :ld:
 

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Jab, and jumping on someones back when you miss or clenching isn't great skill.
Ortiz has a superior jab, superior defense, superior footwork, better punch selection, better handspeed, and is a better ring general than wlad ever was. Even before his hper safe style with Manny

I dont know if you're joking or not .. . Wlad has an ATG Jab, does ortiz?. If you think his whole run was built off just clinching and missing then i dont know what to say. This would be to say you believe Wilders run is built purely off windmilling:mjlol:
 

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I dont know if you're joking or not .. . Wlad has an ATG Jab, does ortiz?. If you think his whole run was built off just clinching and missing then i dont know what to say. This would be to say you believe Wilders run is built purely off windmilling:mjlol:
Larry Holmes had a ATG jab, Ali had a ATG jab. Lennox Lewis had a ATG jab.
Wlad had a good jab, but the fact that after Manny he had to grab and hold because his jab couldn't keep the distance he needed tells a different story.
 
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