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What does black male leadership look like to you in American society? En mass? I always try to figure out is it micro like taking charge of the bills and making sure that people are taken care of or macro where we own a lot of business.
Both. Not the details of bills, just providing the funds. Managing the details of the household is our job. But yes, businesses.

Thats why the lil one sided beef Jason Black is nursing is so wack to me. Bm need to be cliquing up. I ain't never seen Jb co-sign nobody but Tariq and prof black truth.

Why cant white collar and blue collar brehs build? If you a bm plumber, don't you need an accountant? Like, wtf. Get over this pettiness.
 

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Both. Not the details of bills, just providing the funds. Managing the details of the household is our job. But yes, businesses.

Thats why the lil one sided beef Jason Black is nursing is so wack to me. Bm need to be cliquing up. I ain't never seen Jb co-sign nobody but Tariq and prof black truth.

Why cant white collar and blue collar brehs build? If you a bm plumber, don't you need an accountant? Like, wtf. Get over this pettiness.
I think in some cases class and the ego or resentment that it breeds comes into play. I also have tried to work on things with other brehs. Business wise and some people don't want to put in the work. I don't get it either.
 

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I think in some cases class and the ego or resentment that it breeds comes into play. I also have tried to work on things with other brehs. Business wise and some people don't want to put in the work. I don't get it either.
That's the elephant in the room. How do we build anything if the men can't even get together? Even the feminists are better organized. :francis:
 

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That's the elephant in the room. How do we build anything if the men can't even get together? Even the feminists are better organized. :francis:
I think tbh. Dr. Tom Curry and T. Hassan Johnson have the right idea. Black men seem to be the only ones who do not unite based on an intersectional wave length and I think black male gender studies would be a unifying factor the way it was for black women.
 

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I think tbh. Dr. Tom Curry and T. Hassan Johnson have the right idea. Black men seem to be the only ones who do not unite based on an intersectional wave length and I think black male gender studies would be a unifying factor the way it was for black women.
:francis: Im concerned that, when y'all do unify, it will be on the backs of bw vs wp. You see it.
 

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:francis: Im concerned that, when y'all do unify, it will be on the backs of bw vs wp. You see it.
How do you mean? If I get your meaning you think bm will unite to fight what they may consider a common enemy in wp and possibly bw? I only think that happens if wp influence our discourse on the subject going forward.

If that's not what you mean then my apologies.
 

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How do you mean? If I get your meaning you think bm will unite to fight what they may consider a common enemy in wp and possibly bw? I only think that happens if wp influence our discourse on the subject going forward.

If that's not what you mean then my apologies.
No, im saying/ positing that theyll skip wp altogether and focus their ire on bw. Hence the anti bw, pro ww comments in Kevin's chat.

(I do not think this is his intent.)
 

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No, im saying/ positing that theyll skip wp altogether and focus their ire on bw. Hence the anti bw, pro ww comments in Kevin's chat.

(I do not think this is his intent.)
Oh. My hope is that we follow the Dr. Curry model more so than any sort of red pill kind of thing (I know Kevin isn't Red pill but those nuts will go anywhere to have a voice. ) Dr. Curry's scholarship is more about black men and their realizing how they are treated by the world based on their race and gender. It doesn't blame bw. But it does call out people like Bell Hooks who have no sources in their work to verify their claims.
 

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That's the elephant in the room. How do we build anything if the men can't even get together? Even the feminists are better organized. :francis:

Older black men have a hard time guiding young black men in the corporate world too. Some of them enjoy being the token in the group. A lot of lone wolves.

:francis:
 
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I ain’t see not nann tear. what she wiping away :martin:?

y’all nikkas be safe outchea, don’t be moved by fake tears. The realest shyt courtney said was that women aren’t to be trusted.
 

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Petty Vandross.. fukk Yall
Its a sort of learned helplessness. Men no linger think they have the power to lead the community.

A good example is bm admonishing bw for not checking other bw. That's the job of the leader, ie, if yall wasnt fukking them, we wouldn't have this problem. fukking is positive reinforcement.

How can i, a woman, reasonably respond to ":usure: Well SOMEBODY like it' :umad:"???
But whose fault is that:skip:
Let’s be really real
Black men have always capitulated to black women
Even the hardest nikka back in the day was scared of they momma or women in their families
Even when men try to lead
It’s on eggshells because we know how black women will react to an iron fist
Who you talking to:usure:
Ain’t nobody scared of you:usure:
I ain’t your old girlfriend :usure:
Let’s cut the bullshyt fam
You are of age and grew up in an era where you saw this shyt play out
nikkas are literally asking for the bare minimum from women and that can’t even be met
Yes you as a woman need to start checking these duckhead ass bytches
This is not on men in totality
How people going to talk about “black community” but only one side is supposed to do ALL of the work
Carry ALL of the burden
At the same time PROTECT, DEFEND, EDUCATE AND PROVIDE PROVISION
That’s not how COMMUNITY works
Everybody got to get their hands dirty
I find it funny when women do that backhanded
Y’all need to be better leaders:usure:
But you get a nikka that provides structure, plans and execution to your life
Now he’s controlling, boring, lame and all kinds of ad hominems
You grown
Stop with the hypocrisy sis:childplease:
 
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But whose fault is that:skip:
Let’s be really real
Black men have always capitulated to black women
Even the hardest nikka back in the day was scared of they momma or women in their families
Even when men try to lead
It’s on eggshells because we know how black women will react to an iron fist
Who you talk to:usure:
Ain’t nobody scared of you:usure:
I ain’t your old girlfriend :usure:
Let’s cut the bullshyt fam
You are of age and grew up in an era where you saw this shyt play out
nikkas are literally asking for the bare minimum from women and that can’t even be met
Yes you as a woman need to start checking these duckhead ass bytches
This is not on men in totality
How people going to talk about “black community” but only one side is supposed to do ALL of the work
Carry ALL of the burden
At the same time PROTECT, DEFEND, EDUCATE AND PROVIDE PROVISION
That’s not how COMMUNITY works
Everybody got to get their hands dirty
I find it funny when women do that backhanded
Y’all need to be better leaders:usure:
But you get a nikka that provides structure, plans and execution to your life
Now he’s controlling, boring, lame and all kinds of ad hominems
You grown
Stop with the hypocrisy sis:childplease:

This is complete facts. We ALL know black women like this.
 
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