Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[Afro]

Please elaborate.

Because if your trying to say we as black men need to dress as "grown ups" to earn respect from each other, that’s bullshyt. You earn respect how you move, not how you dress.

I agree to an extent, but that is assuming that "everyone" abides by the same rules which is untrue.

Even in this thread, folks think different.

More common judgement is rendered upon how you dress first, in my experience anyway.

Then once you begin to speak and move, the "rest" of you comes out in the open.

 

[SheWantTheD]

Nah. If you look back in history these same trends hold up. Only 40% of men who ever existed procreated compared to 99% of women. So even if you take porn and the internet out of it most men were never getting p*ssy since the beginning of time.

This is more about human nature than anything else. In particular the biological reality that all women have inherent reproductive value (since they are the baby making machines) while all men don't. Thus women are biologically incentivized to only pick the best men to procreate with. That is how the same guys end up fukking all the women since the beginning of time.

How far back are we talking?

Before a woman having children by multiple different men was normalized.. what were the numbers looking like?

 

[The Fade]

No they didn't

She got the Plantation in Haiti which didn't have any slaves on it, and she sold it dumb ass

she never ran it

no take your dumb ass somewhere else, you can easily google this shyt

The Florida Territorial Council passed laws that forbade interracial marriage and the inheriting of property by free blacks or mixed race descendants. To avoid difficulties with the new government in what he termed its "spirit of intolerant prejudice", Kingsley sent his wives, children, and a few slaves to Haiti, by that time free black republic. His two daughters had already each married white planters and remained in Florida.[24][25] He sold the plantation to his nephew, Kingsley Beatty Gibbs in 1839, and transferred some of the slaves to his plantation in San Jose, now a neighborhood in Jacksonville.[note 2] Kingsley started a plantation in Haiti that was worked by former Fort George Island slaves, who had become indentured servants; slavery was not allowed in Haiti. They were to earn their freedom in nine years.[

“The court upheld the treaty signed between the U.S. and Spain stipulating that all free blacks born before 1822 in Florida enjoyed the same legal privileges as they had when Spain controlled East Florida. Anna furthermore asked for and was granted the transfer of ownership of slaves who had been sent to the San Jose plantation when the family had moved to Haiti. ”

And then google backs up my point about Charleston

 

[Master Teacher]

“The court upheld the treaty signed between the U.S. and Spain stipulating that all free blacks born before 1822 in Florida enjoyed the same legal privileges as they had when Spain controlled East Florida. Anna furthermore asked for and was granted the transfer of ownership of slaves who had been sent to the San Jose plantation when the family had moved to Haiti. ”

And then google backs up my point about Charleston

Where you quote that from, that's not written there which is why they don't name the Jose Plantation by name

you made that up post the rest of it

Anna furthermore asked for and was granted the transfer of ownership of slaves who had been sent to the San Jose plantation when the family had moved to Haiti. Her request to rent slaves to other plantations to maximize her profits was rejected by the courts.[28]

Once again she was only entitled to the holdings, she didn't have control of the slaves themselves, only the profits made by then
Kingsley Plantation - Wikipedia
Anna Jai moved with about 70 former slaves to the Arlington neighborhood of Jacksonville to live out her remaining years. The ownership of the island and farms immediately following its sale by Gibbs is unknown

fter Spain ceded control of Florida to the U.S. in 1822, the new state government progressively enacted stricter ordinances separating the races, as was common among other states in the US South. Southern states increased restrictions on free blacks after the Nat Turner Rebellion of 1831. The mixed-race Kingsley family was directly and negatively affected by these "illiberal and inequitable laws", as Kingsley stated in his will.[24] Kingsley transferred all their holdings to the three older children and moved to Haiti in 1835. (The area he moved to is now in the Dominican Republic.) Their two oldest daughters had already married white planters in Florida and remained there.[25] Anna and their youngest son followed Kingsley to Haiti in 1838. In all, 60 slaves, family members, and freed employees moved with Kingsley to Haiti to start a plantation called Mayorasgo de Koka. Because slavery was prohibited in Haiti, Kingsley converted his slaves to indentured servants, who could earn their freedom with another nine years of labor. Kingsley portrayed life in Haiti as idyllic. In 1843, when Anna was 50 years old, Kingsley died on his way to New York, where he was buried.[6]

you a natural born liar

because you just project a narrative, that blacks were out here slave trading and breeding slaves on plantations

 

[Greenhornet]

news flash... its like this for chinese, white, indian, etc too

its called desirability... its not this exaggerated, or a conspiracy. Some men get women and some dont thats life. You'd have to be in middle school not to know this. Has nothing to do with race

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Not givin' a fukk about da opinion, outlook or views of others dispels a lot of this bullshyt.

 

[semicko82]

Damn this thread turned into a math and history lesson

 

[The Fade]

Where you quote that from, that's not written there which is why they don't name the Jose Plantation by name

you made that up post the rest of it

Anna furthermore asked for and was granted the transfer of ownership of slaves who had been sent to the San Jose plantation when the family had moved to Haiti. Her request to rent slaves to other plantations to maximize her profits was rejected by the courts.[28]

Once again she was only entitled to the holdings, she didn't have control of the slaves themselves, only the profits made by then
Kingsley Plantation - Wikipedia
Anna Jai moved with about 70 former slaves to the Arlington neighborhood of Jacksonville to live out her remaining years. The ownership of the island and farms immediately following its sale by Gibbs is unknown

fter Spain ceded control of Florida to the U.S. in 1822, the new state government progressively enacted stricter ordinances separating the races, as was common among other states in the US South. Southern states increased restrictions on free blacks after the Nat Turner Rebellion of 1831. The mixed-race Kingsley family was directly and negatively affected by these "illiberal and inequitable laws", as Kingsley stated in his will.[24] Kingsley transferred all their holdings to the three older children and moved to Haiti in 1835. (The area he moved to is now in the Dominican Republic.) Their two oldest daughters had already married white planters in Florida and remained there.[25] Anna and their youngest son followed Kingsley to Haiti in 1838. In all, 60 slaves, family members, and freed employees moved with Kingsley to Haiti to start a plantation called Mayorasgo de Koka. Because slavery was prohibited in Haiti, Kingsley converted his slaves to indentured servants, who could earn their freedom with another nine years of labor. Kingsley portrayed life in Haiti as idyllic. In 1843, when Anna was 50 years old, Kingsley died on his way to New York, where he was buried.[6]

you a natural born liar

because you just project a narrative, that blacks were out here slave trading and breeding slaves on plantations

I already proved my point, you added the extra shyt and goal posts. And you helped me do it lmaooo. You’re arguing against your own posturing lmaoooo

 

[Swagnificent]

How far back are we talking?

Since the beginning of human history.

These numbers were extrapolated from genetic testing. In particular the difference in genetic diversity between the Y-chromosome (which is passed from father to son) and mitochondrial DNA (which is passed from mother to daughter). What scientists have found is as humans we have far more diversity in the female side of our lineage than the male side. Lending support to the fact far more women have reproduced than men. Which means only a few men have been impregnating all the women since the beginning of human history.

 

[Master Teacher]

I already proved my point, you added the extra shyt and goal posts. And you helped me do it lmaooo

What's the name of the San Jose plantation

you didn't prove any point, you said black people owned slaves, and your only example is a one woman who inherited the holdings from her dead husband a decade before slavery was abolished, and she never ran any of the plantations or brought slaves herself, or participated in any slave trading

you thought Kingsley was some kind light nikka lmao

You can't produce any documents or proof that she own any slaves, they don't even name this San Jose plantation, so that can't even be taking has fact that it even exists, because you we can't look it up

so she owned slaves but couldn't do with her ass she pleased, that make sense to you

like I said you believe everything read on the internet even if it doesn't make sense

 

[keon]

Men with small penises more likely to be infertile

this might explain a lot too

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

I'm an old nikka, I remember when I was a kid back in the 90's you could get an Amarie looking chick despite having no money and really no game.

Two things could be true at the same time. Bad math could be a justification of why dudes are crying while playing video games and listening to dressed up fairies. But it could also be true that women are being Hard on nikkas too.

Maybe the rejected are becoming the rejectees on some I know you are but what I am I shyt. I mean we are below replacement levels that's facts.

But before any of that is discussed, do you believe only 20% of blk men are the fathers of 80% of blk children in our community?

 

[The Fade]

What's the name of the San Jose plantation

you didn't prove any point, you said black people owned slaves, and your only example is a one woman who inherited the holdings from her dead husband a decade before slavery was abolished, and she never ran any of the plantations or brought slaves herself, or participated in any slave trading

you thought Kingsley was some kind light nikka lmao

You can't produce any documents or proof that she own any slaves, they don't even name this San Jose plantation, so that can't even be taking has fact that it even exists, because you we can't look it up

so she owned slaves but couldn't do with her ass she pleased, that make sense to you
like I said you believe everything read on the internet even if it doesn't make sense

Keep moving the goal posts breh

Contradicting yourself when it suits you

 

[Master Teacher]

Keep moving the goal posts breh

Contradicting yourself when it suits you

This is what you posted

You moving GOAL POST

you brought Kingsley in florida NOT ME

YOu had no idea about his wife

He didn't even bring her up, I did it all that, you thought Kingsly was mixed black man

The wife didn't even own the plantation, if you knew what you was talking about you would have brought this San Jose Plantation

there's no information on

we can pull out the Kinsley plantation and see images, we can pull up Fort George plantation in Haiti and see images

Why can't pull up this San Jose plantation or even know whats called

you been moving Goal Post whole time

you said THE KINGSLEY PLANTATION WAS BLACKED OWNED

 

[Wiseborn]

No they aren’t. In fact, researchers are finding that children are being over identified for disabilities. And most current birth defects are based on health and lifestyle of the mothers, as well as environmental factors not incest from sharing genes of 20% of fathers.

I just...

I believe that the 80/20 rule is a handy but lazy way of describing the situation. I don't believe that 18% of the dudes are having all the childrens but I believe that if it were completely up to women it would be true. You said in another thread yourself that women are getting tired of getting all dolled up for these fukkboys. As far as Men are concerned we are the same as we ever where it's women who are deciding that a lot of Men are simply not worth it.

As far as the gene sharing thing, I generally believe you.