Kendrick Lamar to make Billboard history as he's projected to occupy the entire top 5 next week - Squabble Up #1

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It really doesn’t significantly help you go from like 4 million streams to 7 million streams like these guys think it does :mjlol:

When albums come out the numbers are generally highest from song 1 and go down towards the end in chronological order unless there’s a song that really pops off as the crowds favorite

Short albums the songs will probably have more individual streams because people have to play the 8 songs over and over instead of playing the 17 songs straight through

But k bot Stans like to change narratives as they go

nikkas never mentioned how many songs Drake albums have until someone on twitter found a way to skew the narrative in their favor to make his first week numbers seem better :dead:

I've tried to avoid these stan wars but you can't be lying like this.

Several people have called out artists for making long ass albums to juke their stats.




Some of these articles are damn near a decade old. So :mjlol: at this starting with Drake vs Kendrick.

Hell, the marketing manager of Atlantic Records admitted it back in 2018:

"Stacking albums with extra songs is a strategic way to achieve certain goals,” says Malcolm Manswell, a marketing manager for Atlantic Records. In 2014, Billboard incorporated streaming into its chart calculations (1,500 on-demand streams equals one LP), and two years later, the Recording Industry Association of America adopted the same formula for album certifications. Longer albums that generate more streams can lead to Number One chart debuts and gold and platinum plaques. Last fall, when Chris Brown released the 45-song Heartbreak on a Full Moon, it was certified gold in less than 10 days, even though none of its singles cracked the Top 40. Album certifications remain “the indication of a great artist,” says Manswell. “On the sponsorship side, this stuff helps labels sell an artist or argue for why a brand should use an artist.”

So nah, respectfully you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. A shorter album doing comparable numbers to a longer album is far more impressive.

Fred.
 

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I've tried to avoid these stan wars but you can't be lying like this.

Several people have called out artists for making long ass albums to juke their stats.




Some of these articles are damn near a decade old. So :mjlol: at this starting with Drake vs Kendrick.

Hell, the marketing manager of Atlantic Records admitted it back in 2018:

"Stacking albums with extra songs is a strategic way to achieve certain goals,” says Malcolm Manswell, a marketing manager for Atlantic Records. In 2014, Billboard incorporated streaming into its chart calculations (1,500 on-demand streams equals one LP), and two years later, the Recording Industry Association of America adopted the same formula for album certifications. Longer albums that generate more streams can lead to Number One chart debuts and gold and platinum plaques. Last fall, when Chris Brown released the 45-song Heartbreak on a Full Moon, it was certified gold in less than 10 days, even though none of its singles cracked the Top 40. Album certifications remain “the indication of a great artist,” says Manswell. “On the sponsorship side, this stuff helps labels sell an artist or argue for why a brand should use an artist.”

So nah, respectfully you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. A shorter album doing comparable numbers to a longer album is far more impressive.

Fred.
It goes back to when people would release double albums so every unit counted as 2 sales.


Long albums aside, Drake has like 4X as many songs as kendrick, it makes sense that he'd have bigger streaming numbers.
 

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I've tried to avoid these stan wars but you can't be lying like this.

Several people have called out artists for making long ass albums to juke their stats.




Some of these articles are damn near a decade old. So :mjlol: at this starting with Drake vs Kendrick.

Hell, the marketing manager of Atlantic Records admitted it back in 2018:

"Stacking albums with extra songs is a strategic way to achieve certain goals,” says Malcolm Manswell, a marketing manager for Atlantic Records. In 2014, Billboard incorporated streaming into its chart calculations (1,500 on-demand streams equals one LP), and two years later, the Recording Industry Association of America adopted the same formula for album certifications. Longer albums that generate more streams can lead to Number One chart debuts and gold and platinum plaques. Last fall, when Chris Brown released the 45-song Heartbreak on a Full Moon, it was certified gold in less than 10 days, even though none of its singles cracked the Top 40. Album certifications remain “the indication of a great artist,” says Manswell. “On the sponsorship side, this stuff helps labels sell an artist or argue for why a brand should use an artist.”

So nah, respectfully you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. A shorter album doing comparable numbers to a longer album is far more impressive.

Fred.


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I've tried to avoid these stan wars but you can't be lying like this.

Several people have called out artists for making long ass albums to juke their stats.




Some of these articles are damn near a decade old. So :mjlol: at this starting with Drake vs Kendrick.

Hell, the marketing manager of Atlantic Records admitted it back in 2018:

"Stacking albums with extra songs is a strategic way to achieve certain goals,” says Malcolm Manswell, a marketing manager for Atlantic Records. In 2014, Billboard incorporated streaming into its chart calculations (1,500 on-demand streams equals one LP), and two years later, the Recording Industry Association of America adopted the same formula for album certifications. Longer albums that generate more streams can lead to Number One chart debuts and gold and platinum plaques. Last fall, when Chris Brown released the 45-song Heartbreak on a Full Moon, it was certified gold in less than 10 days, even though none of its singles cracked the Top 40. Album certifications remain “the indication of a great artist,” says Manswell. “On the sponsorship side, this stuff helps labels sell an artist or argue for why a brand should use an artist.”

So nah, respectfully you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. A shorter album doing comparable numbers to a longer album is far more impressive.

Fred.
This is where I first started to learn about this. I was wondering why CB added so many damn songs :dead:.
 

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It goes back to when people would release double albums so every unit counted as 2 sales.


Long albums aside, Drake has like 4X as many songs as kendrick, it makes sense that he'd have bigger streaming numbers.

The double album thing made slightly more sense, as they were roughly 2x the price as a "regular" album.

Now, if we both drop an album, mine has 20 tracks and yours has 10....we should not be doing around the same numbers. Your fans would have to play every song literally 2x as much as mine, to even hit the same number.

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I've tried to avoid these stan wars but you can't be lying like this.

Several people have called out artists for making long ass albums to juke their stats.




Some of these articles are damn near a decade old. So :mjlol: at this starting with Drake vs Kendrick.

Hell, the head of Atlantic Records admitted it back in 2018:

"Stacking albums with extra songs is a strategic way to achieve certain goals,” says Malcolm Manswell, a marketing manager for Atlantic Records. In 2014, Billboard incorporated streaming into its chart calculations (1,500 on-demand streams equals one LP), and two years later, the Recording Industry Association of America adopted the same formula for album certifications. Longer albums that generate more streams can lead to Number One chart debuts and gold and platinum plaques. Last fall, when Chris Brown released the 45-song Heartbreak on a Full Moon, it was certified gold in less than 10 days, even though none of its singles cracked the Top 40. Album certifications remain “the indication of a great artist,” says Manswell. “On the sponsorship side, this stuff helps labels sell an artist or argue for why a brand should use an artist.”

So nah, respectfully you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. A shorter album doing comparable numbers to a longer album is far more impressive.

Fred.

No..it doesn’t necessarily “stream more” ..it’s just spread out more ..hence none of Chris browns singles going gold or whatever in that article

generally most albums streams like this:

Song 1: 10 streams
Song 2 : 10 streams
3: 9 streams
4: 8 streams
5: 9streams
6: 7 streans
7: 4 streams

But if a person has a shorter album:

Song 1: 15
2: 15
3 : 15
4: 12

Etc. ..so at the end it pretty much evens out

But throw in a random hit and it will boost the number

The Chris brown 45 song album did 68k
The one following that did 70k with 23 songs

The same people are listening to the album regardless of if having twice as many songs

..the album in between those 2 did over 100k but it had the song with Drake that was a hit
 

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No..it doesn’t necessarily “stream more” ..it’s just spread out more ..hence none of Chris browns singles going gold or whatever in that article

generally most albums streams like this:

Song 1: 10 streams
Song 2 : 10 streams
3: 9 streams
4: 8 streams
5: 9streams
6: 7 streans
7: 4 streams

But if a person has a shorter album:

Song 1: 15
2: 15
3 : 15
4: 12

Etc. ..so at the end it pretty much evens out

But throw in a random hit and it will boost the number

The Chris brown 45 song album did 68k
The one following that did 70k with 23 songs

The same people are listening to the album regardless of if having twice as many songs

..the album in between those 2 did over 100k but it had the song with Drake that was a hit

:dahell:

Dog what in the actual f*ck are you talking about?

It's hilarious you think this is open to debate. The head of marketing at a major label point blank spelled out exactly what I said, and the reasons for doing it. And you're still in here talking about "well, no actually...."

Stop it man.

Fred.
 

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A longer album with more songs gives you more chances to get streams because each song counts as a stream. If an album has 20 songs, that's 20 opportunities for people to listen, compared to just 8 songs on a shorter album. More streams mean more exposure and money for the artist.
Why aren’t the longest albums the most streamed albums then?
 

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Thats why many modern day artists release 20+ track albums with even longer deluxe editions. Taylor Swift releases like 3-4 different versions of her albums with expanding tracklists and thats why she does a millie first week.
Her last album has 36 "variants" that's why it was on top for so long.

 

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Why aren’t the longest albums the most streamed albums then?

More often than not they are. Chris Brown went gold in a week off a 40+ song album. I won't even get into the Drake stuff.

There's been several articles breaking down exactly what is happening, from 6-8 years ago, people that work at labels telling you they're intentionally bloating albums to juke the stats....but some of you are still acting confused.

Her last album has 36 "variants" that's why it was on top for so long.


Is her A&R Kang? :dahell:

Fred.
 
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