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fuking idoit..
Keith Thurman Turns Down Roc Nation Offer
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King P
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For the record, that deal isn't that great and there's a ton of risk in it.
Don't really blame Thurman for it. Only time will tell if he made the right decision
Don't really blame Thurman for it. Only time will tell if he made the right decision
as a boxer u shouldnt turn down that much money... it can all end in the next fight.
WORD? YOU'D TURN DOWN 6 MILLION TO MAKE YOUR PIMP HAPPY??First I was like "what the fukk"
but after reading what he has to say about it...I can see where he is coming from
Explain how it isn't that great.
who that in ur avy
King P
Legends Never Die
6 million seems like a good amount, and it is. But why do we act like Thurman can't make that with Haymon. It's possible he makes 6 mil or surpasses it by next year. With the Roc Nation deal, Thurman gets 2 million upfront. Which means he's gonna be making around 1 mil per fight. Mind you, Thurman is getting a mil to fight Bundu. Let's say he has 3 fights next year. What if he gets the big fights he's been looking for? Imagine he fights Kell Brook next year for the strap. That's a good payday right there, and there's still the possibility of Mayweather in September (slim, but possible). Haymon will get Thurman paid. Basically, Thurman could make the same amount of money with Haymon, while not being tied down to any promotions.
And who's to say the deal with Roc Nation will work out. They have no track record. How they gonna get him fights? If he goes to Roc Nation, he won't get any of Haymon's fighters. Arum isn't opening up his checkbook to co-promote shyt. He could get Hearns and Dibellia's fighters, but who do they have for him? Roc Nation doesn't even have a TV deal yet. If they can't him the fights, he doesn't get that money. And if he does get the fights, it will probably be against bullshyt opponents that won't net them any profit. And Lord knows we already have enough nikkas talking about how Thurman ain't shyt and how he hasn't fought anybody, we don't need to have this go on any longer.
Just look at 50's SMS Promotions, and see how that's going. Roc Nation could mirror that
The deal looks great at first sight, but dig deeper and it doesn't look so good.
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Why would signing a promotional deal with Roc Nation preclude Thurman from getting fights with other Haymon fighters? Why would Haymon damage a client by not getting him the best fights available?
or are you saying that Haymon would seek to punish Thurman for signing with a promoter? That would seem to me to be a breach of whatever contract Thurman and Haymon have.
who that in ur avy
You didn't really dig deeper into the deal itself. None of us really can. Thurman doesn't have that kind of security right now. $2 million guaranteed without fighting and $4 million over 3 fights is a great deal. And that's without considering any escalators in the contract involving title shots and defenses. Those are usually standard in promotional contracts. And he COULD make that money with Haymon over that time, but there's a lot of ifs along the way. How is he going to make $6 million next year for 3 fights without a Mayweather fight? And would you be willing to bet that he'd make MORE in his next 3 fights than this deal? I wouldn't.
And if this a 3 fight offer, what do you think Roc Nation would offer him in his next deal after those 3 fights? He's also losing out on the endorsement possibilities outside of boxing that linking with Jay Z could bring him.
The points you made about competition, network, and title shots are all valid though. I understand why a boxer might be worried about that with a new entity. I'm sure that's how Haymon spun it for Thurman. But Roc Nation is a huge, powerful entity in sports & entertainment. They're backed by Live Nation, just like Al Haymon. 50 Cent just jumped into the game solo, with no help. He couldn't get enough money together to bid $1.9 million for a title fight or offer $6 million to a fighter.
The deal itself is great though. There are only a handful of guys that'll make $6 million in the ring in their next 3 fights.
King P
Legends Never Die
This.
If Thurman went over to Roc Nation, Haymon would definitely freeze him out. And since he has damn near all the Welterweights, that really fukks over Thurman big time
King P
Legends Never Die
Thurman has making 7 figures fighting Bundu. If he fights 3 or 4 times next year, that's at least 3-4 mil. And that's assuming he stays in the same position he does now. If his name gets bigger and fighters bigger opponents, he definitely exceeds 6 mil or comes very close to it.
Roc Nation is huge, but they have no clout in the boxing game. Rocafella tried opening their own promotions like 10 years ago, and it flopped hard. They need to go out and develop their own fighters
What good is 6 mil if Thurman can't get a decent fight? He'll be so limited in the fighters he can get and where he fights. Basically ESPN and FS1. HBO doesn't give out big license fees, so he probably wouldn't get much shine there.
There's a very good chance Thurman becomes Andre Dirrell 2.0 if he took that deal.
I aint about that ninjas pockets but cmon. Do y'all think Thurman is going to make similar money 2015-2018? Its possible yes, but guarnteed it is not
Deal has no risk............lil nikka Roc nation doesnt even have a roster,. he would had got fed can after can and he would've got blew to the moon as a superstar..........Fukk outta here
King P
Legends Never Die
Yeah, he'd get fed can after can, and your double talking ass would shyt on him even more for not fighting anybody worth shytDeal has no risk............lil nikka Roc nation doesnt even have a roster,. he would had got fed can after can and he would've got blew to the moon as a superstar..........Fukk outta here
