Karmelo Anthony released from jail

[50CentStan]

that this cock sucker got away with that was crazy. Clearly he had a bloodlust.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

What is the proof deadly force wasn't? Again, you're deciding for Karmelo how scared he was allowed to be. I'm roughly 6'2" about 240, and in a fight i could take most regular sized people and run their head into a wall, or even pick them up and drive them headfirst into the ground, both of which could be fatal, even though I may not have intended to kill anyone. If I hit someone hard enough they could fall and hit their head, which could also be fatal. Karmelo is 5'9" 160, which is basically regular sized. How much damage could two of me with bad intentions do to someone that size? The Metcalf twins are 6 ft 220, and even at my size I would still have trouble with two dudes that size if we got into it. Combined, they outweighed Karmelo by 280 pounds.

Who are you, or anyone else to tell that young man how scared he was allowed to be? Do you know how much bodily harm they could've done? Do you know how far the Metcalf twins would've gone before they stopped? No, you don't. And the only way to find out would've been to simply let them beat on Karmelo to see how far they would've gone.

I've dealt with the touching and the telling up above. The twins told then they touched, and nobody knows how far they intended to go.

If I'm sitting in a public place and have a gun on me and for no reason you come start fukking with me, and then attack me, and I shoot you to defend myself, that doesn't mean I was sitting there the whole time intending to shoot you. It just means I had a gun on me when you approached and then attacked. Karmelo had the knife in his bag. And Karmelo even gave the twins a warning once he was threatened - "touch me and see what happens" - which he's not required to do. he didn't have to say anything. he could've just ignored the twins when they demanded he leave, and then reacted when they got physical.

The prosecutor is going to say alot of things, that doesn't mean they're true.

You seem to not understand the proportionality clause of self defense. I didn't make the laws. That's just how it is. Every attack is not considered a deadly attack. If someone slaps you, then you can slap or punch them back in self defense. What you cannot do is stab or shoot them dead. Your response to an attack has to be reasonable and proportionate. The courts are very clear about this. To use deadly force when defending yourself you need to be responding to immediate deadly force from your attacker. There is no way around that. The size of the attacker excuse wont work for a murder. Karmelo was a football player too. And to be fair, the courts are generally lenient on the response for self defense in most cases EXCEPT for when someone get killed. That's where the line in the sand is all the extra clauses in the law kick in. Had he grabbed a baseball bat and clocked metcalf and knocked him out with no serious injury then he could possibly use the size factor as an excuse for the disproportionate force and he might get away with it. But since someone died its now a whole different ballgame.

In your other scenario of sitting in a public place you would be in jail and charged with murder. You cannot just shoot somebody for messing with you or attacking you. Again, proportionality in your response is the key. In Texas you will have to prove with evidence that your life was in immediate danger at the time you used deadly force.

Then that'll be a charge he has to deal with. In the example I gave above, if I'd been sitting in a park or some other place where firearms aren't allowed, that doesn't now mean that I'm open season for whoever feels like doing whatever to me, up to and including beating me to death for sitting there. It just means if a situation happens and the law gets involved, that might be a charge I have to deal with. And criminal trespassing is child's play for even a decent lawyer. Probation

Its not just something he has to deal with. Its something that could be critical to this whole case. You cannot claim self defense if you are already committing a crime.

Brother, this is what I mean by you have to dehonkyfy your mind. You don't get to project what that man "would have eventually" done. If so, who's to say the Metcalf twins wouldn't have eventually beat someone to death, simply because they felt like that person shouldn't be where they were?

And this is the problem so many have with certain of you immigrants. And I'm not trying to start any petty diaspora back and forths, but what I mean is this. Were you born here in this country? Or did you move here relatively young? If so, you would've at least had the basic history classes we all took coming up through middle and high school, which would mean you should have at least a rudimentary knowledge of our history here.

You'd know there was a period of time, not so long ago, where a poor white trash 9 year old child could order around an established grown Black man like the Black man was the child, and the Black man had better move when that kid said move. If they were both on the sidewalk then that Black man had better move around and make way. That's what has these white people so mad that they're lying, and basically what you're arguing for, whether you know it or not.

See, this isn't about karmelo sitting quietly under an opposing team's tent (like many others were doing) during a downpour and refusing to leave when asked. At heart, though unspoken, what this is really about is the fact that two white men told that black boy to git, and he didn't git. And then he actually had the audacity to try and defend himself - raised his hand against a white man! - when those two tried to put the ni _ _ er in his place! My friend, this isn't the 1800's. We don't have to bow and scrape and step tew whenever we hear 'get up out your chair boy! NOW!' and shuffle back out into the rain because Boss said so. And we certainly don't have to simply sit back and let two big white boys tire themselves out beating on us and throwing us about, while hoping they plan on stopping before they seriously hurt, or even kill us.

You are overly emotional and your response lacks basic logic. Just like Karmelo and a lot of young boys in our community you are a victim of emotional thinking. You resort to name calling and assumptions when you cannot make a point like a scorned female. Only 1 of my parents immigrated here and I'm born and raised in the inner city. Most of these black boys are dying over short term emotional thinking and there pride and ego is too big to just walk away from conflict. Yes legally you don't always have to if its true self defense.. But if you are smart you will avoid conflict cause its almost never worth it. Even if you manage to get off in court your life is forever changed and now you have to worry about retaliation from the victims family, civil lawsuits, losing your job or being kicked out of school and all types of other issues. Senseless violence happens everyday in this country and homicide is the number one killer of black teen boys. And your way of thinking is the reason why.

He stepped on my shoes so imma kill him.. he touched me so imma kill him... he looked at my girl so imma kill him.. he disrespected me so imma kill him.. That the mentality you promote.

 

[Voice of Reason]

I'm not a fan of the press conference. It accomplishes nothing for that family.

 

[Strapped]

Karmelos mom needs to stay away

 

[Dzali OG]

Any truth to the climate that he did not have a knife but tent spike or something to do with the tent?

 

[#1 pick]

I'm not a fan of the press conference. It accomplishes nothing for that family.

Not everyone lives in a world used to this type of hate.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Not everyone lives in a world used to this type of hate.

The community organizer dude is not articulate and he has a lengthy criminal record. He is a negative from a PR prospective for this family. This family needs smart PR people around them. I don't think letting the mother air all of her grievances in public was a good thing. It was just right wing media red meat.

 

[#1 pick]

The community organizer dude is not articulate and he has a lengthy criminal record. He is a negative from a PR prospective for this family. This family needs smart PR people around them. I don't think letting the mother air all of grievances in public as a good thing. It just right wing media red meat.

They don't know better. This shyt literally came and changed their lives in less than a month. They don't have a police force with assigned groups to handle this for them. They have been doxxed out the ass. This shyt is crazy

 

[Tair]

Case will boil down to whether the jury thinks Karmelo's response to stabbing Metcalf was reasonable.

In Texas they can factor in size disparity to which Metcalf was much larger than Karmelo and Karmelo was fending off twins.
Also, Karmelo didn't seemingly intend to kill Metcalf, he just wanted to stop Metcalf from assaulting him. Given that, he has a good chance of getting off or being hit with pretty light charges.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Looks like that’s the first time that woman has jogged in a minute.

Just how @Dont@Me like em

 

[Justin Nitsuj]

Great there’s a fukking Nigerian in the thread being a fukking attack dog for cacs by trying to downplay a black man’s claim of self defense. And you see there will always be so called diaspora wars amongst black people

 

[High Art]

Great there’s a fukking Nigerian in the thread being a fukking attack dog for cacs by trying to downplay a black man’s claim of self defense. And you see there will always be so called diaspora wars amongst black people

And there's another one against him. What is your point?

 

[goatmane]

the Anthony Family needs to fire that dude. Demote him. need to handle the security details.

they need a soft spoken Black man with degrees can go on CNN and Good Morning America


A nikka like this

 

[Art Barr]

This is the ratcheted up uber verse.
meets afterschool version of ahmaud aubrey.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/24/1058240388/ahmaud-arbery-murder-trial-verdict-travis-greg-mcmichael

Just without the other two older racist.
Minus the pick up and on a public street. Taking place on a school endorsed functions grounds.


The lone white racist aggressor was just a teen on a school campus. Trying to use agent provocateur style legislation based savy. To lench mob and practoce making strange fruit.
That back fired.




The only difference is :

-The setting
-No automobile
-Lack of additional racist white boys
-Melo was privy and prescient.
to what happened to ahmaud running and decided to act. Instead of being a victim.


Example.


Ahmaud was running = same sport
Except ahmaud was unarmed.

Karmelo = running at a track meet. Yet was prescient.
to be armed in the sport of track. after the tragedy of ahmaud.


This kid was prescient and pre-emptive.
considering what happened to ahmaud. To have some idea.
to protect himself. So as not to windup.
in a similar predicament.

If you were a black young runner. Then of course.
you would be armed.
after the tragedy to ahmaud.

It is the same situation.
Except wypipo.
expect you to be a strange fruit style slave.
That is victimized.
In their what'chu doin' round dese here parts boi.
racist strange fruit obsessed bullshyt.




Wypipo are going to use this.
to legislate lench mob behavior.



When this was also debunked in anpther case. Where a black man was drug before aubrey as well.

Karmelo anthony is a prescient young hero in our community.




Art Barr

The goat gon goat......

Watch me put'eem throughed't it.

 

[newarkhiphop]

I think the alleged videos that exist will be the deal breaker