Kanye West vs K-Rino, who got the better discography? whos the better artist?

Kanye vs K-rino

  • Kanye

    Votes: 92 82.9%
  • K-rino

    Votes: 19 17.1%

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The Ruler 09

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Look at what I found on the Kanye West forums lmao....

Why is K rino so slept on hes easliy the GOAT Rapper
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So who REALISTICALLY is even close ??????
 

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He posted a bunch of links to but it won't copy. Wonder if they saying the same on the K-Rino 1 lmao.
 

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i dont see how the ruler 09 can be respected by anyone.

He doesnt debate. he just calls you a sheep if you think someone he doesnt like is better than k-rino.

im a real poster, and he drove me to troll status because that dude is delusional.

he is like if the rhyme king smartened up one level.
 

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This is why noone wants to keep having a debate with you. How can you write so much and say so little. No one wants to debate you because its like talking to a child in a sandbox and the childd keep repeating the same sentence over and over again. So the grown ups finally give up when they realize the kid wont listen and walks away. Its not because the kid outsmarted the grownups its because the kid is annoying as fukk and wont listen.

And shut the fukk up about the quantity of music you must have listened to. All the songs you posted so far in this thread alone must be at lest 2 CDs long. How much must I listen to before I give you an honest opinion of K-rinos music in your eyes? What hidden CD is it that will turn every everyone to a K-rino fan?

You say I'm saying little because you don't want to acknowledge the truth of what I say, you can't handle or deal with substance. So, after this little statement the next response is "and shut the fukk up", extremely grown up lol. You have to hear all each artists work, most people here probably haven't even heard 1 song from K-Rino which highlights again the sheeple mentality. And even the 1s who have heard a few are very limited. I'm not trying to make everyone a K-Rino fan, I am saying MY opinion. I didn't make this thread, merlely replied in it. The insecure motherfukkers made the thread, but backfired hard.
 

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i dont see how the ruler 09 can be respected by anyone.

He doesnt debate. he just calls you a sheep if you think someone he doesnt like is better than k-rino.

im a real poster, and he drove me to troll status because that dude is delusional.

he is like if the rhyme king smartened up one level.
I'm about 99% sure he just trolling now :manny:
 

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Damn, whos acting emotional now?

Point out what makes you think why I have a extremely low intellect. Quote me. Also show quotes that revel my skin color. And please expand what you mean by my fakeness.

I didnt want to learn? What? What do I need to learn? You keep talking about educating me. But all you do is posting tracks. I told you I have listened to K-rino. Hes a great MC, no question about it. But Kanye west have made better music. And I dont feel like I need to educate you on that issue. We all have different taste in music. You talk about being objective but dont sound anything like it.

I never said I couldn't relate to K-rino, I even said I probably could relate to him more then Kanye since K-rino talks about stuff that do interest me. I love philosophy and psychology, and even tho K-rino talks about it in his tracks I ratter listen to a Kanye CD most of the time. Is that a crime? I listen to K-rino and other underground artists when Im in the mood for it. Its good to educate yourself but I dont use music as a primary tool for that. I read a book instead. When I listen to music I most of the time want to be uplifted. Is that hard to understand? Or do you have to be white to want to enjoy music on that level?

And when have I ducked your questions except with the sounding the same question? You get stuck on my troll arguments like they all sound the same. We both know that K-rino have alot of different tracks. But Sonically speaking K-rinos tracks is more similar that for example Kanye who have a larger range in his music. And If you dont hear that I will start posting songs from every secound CD he dropped during the last 20 years to show you. And I know you will challenge me on it so dont think I have the tracks ready.

And after that I will stop posting in this thread because I have already spent waaaay to much energy on a dead end discussion.

I love talking music so I will bump that Eyedea thread later, since I belive that discussion could be way more balanced and actually talk about talent/music etc.But I will do that in about two weeks, because Im tired of talking to you at the moment.




Its annoying as fukk, especially when I really try to have a discussion going. But in the end you just have to give up.

You, because you started acting like that early, I was speaking to you decently at first, you acted out cause your upset. I don't have anything against anyone's skin color, my point is in YOUR case that is probably a factor in this as you can't relate to a pro black artist on that level and see Kayne West as more of an acceptable safe "negro" to entertain you, there is probably elements of racial prejudice involved in this too.

I explained why I thought that already. Your inability to grasp the most simple basic statements. You kept saying factually incorrect statements then running away when it came time to back it up. My point isn't to change your personsal preference, if you someone likes a horse shyt sandwich instead of a healthy nutritious meal that is their prerogative. However I will correct inaccuracies made out of ignorance.

Now you've admitted making troll arguments, again emphasizing what I've been saying. Cool.
 

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I'm about 99% sure he just trolling now :manny:

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he must be on k-rino street team tryna build buzz for his next project.
i hope he's getting paid because if not.......ayyyy thats gonna be a hard look in the mirror when you reach 20.000 posts about one man in less than 3-4 years.
 

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You say I'm saying little because you don't want to acknowledge the truth of what I say, you can't handle or deal with substance. So, after this little statement the next response is "and shut the fukk up", extremely grown up lol. You have to hear all each artists work, most people here probably haven't even heard 1 song from K-Rino which highlights again the sheeple mentality. And even the 1s who have heard a few are very limited. I'm not trying to make everyone a K-Rino fan, I am saying MY opinion. I didn't make this thread, merlely replied in it. The insecure motherfukkers made the thread, but backfired hard.

Again, what truth am I missing? And how many CDs do you think I have to listen to before I can give a fair judgment of K-rinos music. Also explain your reasoning with that answer. Will I have gain some new knowledge of K-rinos ability to make music after listening to certain amount of of his music? For example you should be able to give me 3 CDs where he shows of either High quality music, a wide variety of different tracks, etc. If an artist have 20 albums you cant expect every one to
listen to that?


You, because you started acting like that early, I was speaking to you decently at first, you acted out cause your upset. I don't have anything against anyone's skin color, my point is in YOUR case that is probably a factor in this as you can't relate to a pro black artist on that level and see Kayne West as more of an acceptable safe "negro" to entertain you, there is probably elements of racial prejudice involved in this too.

I explained why I thought that already. Your inability to grasp the most simple basic statements. You kept saying factually incorrect statements then running away when it came time to back it up. My point isn't to change your personsal preference, if you someone likes a horse shyt sandwich instead of a healthy nutritious meal that is their prerogative. However I will correct inaccuracies made out of ignorance.

Now you've admitted making troll arguments, again emphasizing what I've been saying. Cool.


But its You that cant grasp simple basic statements! I have told you at lest two times I can relate to K-rino (ITS EVEN IN THE TEXT YOU QUOTED ME ON) but for some reason you tend to ignore that fact and claim i dont. :beli: Its like you decided in your head I dont like K-rino so you make up statements that I havnt even written. Its easy to win arguments in your own head :mjlol:

But its not up to you to decide if kanye west music is horse shyt. Dont you see that. Music is not food. Music is most of the time used to uplift your mood. And I argue that Kanye West makes better uplifting music. If you want to expand your mind do it with a book ffs. Im not saying you cant do it with Music. But there is a time and place for that and kanye knows how to balance that better IMO.
 
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Again, what truth am I missing? And how many CDs do you think I have to listen to before I can give a fair judgment of K-rinos music. Also explain your reasoning with that answer. Will I have gain some new knowledge of K-rinos ability to make music after listening to certain amount of of his music? For example you should be able to give me 3 CDs where he shows of either High quality music, a wide variety of different tracks, etc. If an artist have 20 albums you cant expect every one to
listen to that?





But its You that cant grasp simple basic statements! I have told you at lest two times I can relate to K-rino (ITS EVEN IN THE TEXT YOU QUOTED ME ON) but for some reason you tend to ignore that fact and claim i dont. :beli: Its like you decided in your head I dont like K-rino so you make up statements that I havnt even written. Its easy to win arguments in your own head :mjlol:

But its not up to you to decide if kanye west music is horse shyt. Dont you see that. Music is not food. Music is most of the time used to uplift your mood. And I argue that Kanye West makes better uplifting music. If you want to expand your mind do it with a book ffs. Im not saying you cant do it with Music. But there is a time and place for that and kanye knows how to balance that better IMO.

So you say, don't believe you. You were talking about emotional relate-ability previously and that's what I was talking about. It's by the bullshyt and inaccuracies you've said and the admitted trollin. I was using that as an example/analagy, did your minuscule mind think it was a literal statement? Lol. The analgy is quite accurate, music can be nuturous or it can be bullshyt. K-Rino's using does that though, much more blatantly than Kanye or you gonna preach to me the artistic merits of fat friends nicknamed minie van?. Lol.. You're a foolish little boy, it's clear you are not Hip Hop but use it and you don't have a full understanding or grasp of the culture, do you even see Hip Hop as a culture? If so could ask you some more questions on this. You can argue anything you like but when you objectively look at the artistic merit of the work you will see K-Rino's quality as an MC is higher. But as you don't understand Hip Hop or lyricism or the culture your opinion is pretty much worthless anyway. You said lyricism is about making the most simple shyt possible, so is Rakim a wack lyricist then? Kanye West is better than Rakim lyrically yeah?. You can have your preference and opinion though, never once said you or anybody else can't. But when you say lies that will be corrected, that's all.
 

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Came across this article too titled.....

Kanye West, Hip-Hop’s Confederate c00n

Kanye West has slid down a slope of ingratiating insanity that I’ve pinpointed has been since his mother died. The Kayne that I grew to love that produced the higher learning albums of “College Dropout,” “Late Registration,” and “Graduation” had morphed into this abstract aesthetic by the time “808s & Heartbreak” that left many of us going “ohhhhh, okay” figuring this was him trying to work out the death of his mother. We saw Kanye’s fashion transmogrify from the typical hip hop rapper ensemble from the early 2000s into this almost sensual vibe that left many hardcore rap and hip hop fans with their mouths agape. In the long line of controversies associated with Kanye from his “George Bush doesn’t like black people” comment to the lurid and scandalous details of his relationship and now engagement to Kim Kardashian, this may be the last straw for a few people.

Recently, Kanye made headlines simultaneously for his engagement to Kim Kardashian but also for donning clothing from his own clothing line featuring the Confederate flag. The typical knee-jerk response I believe is more than appropriate. There are moments in which humanity makes the collective decisions to never resurrect the moments and the symbols of great human suffering. One of the most notable is the global disuse of the swastika. Even though as a symbol it predates the Nazi use of it, today, it is a symbol that the German government has gone so far as to ban the use thereof. While the U.S. will probably never ban the use of the Confederate flag, for many it is still a symbol of hate, of the slaveocracy that so defined the southern antebellum United States.

While historians may argue, correctly, that the Confederate States of America never officially seceded from the United States, that maybe true under the law, but a de facto government and currency did exist (though pitiable it may be) and a war was indeed fought where people bled and died. The question I always ask is what heritage is one hearkening to when the Confederate flag is waved? For me it is a heritage associated with treason, with the owning of humans as chattel and it is one marked by the inane spirt of white superiority and racism.

Semiotics deals with how we read signs in our culture. Anything from the written language to forms of art, to symbols and images all have the ability to be interpreted, or understood as a sign pointing to something greater than the image or symbol before one’s eyes. The Rebel flag is not just a “stars and bars” of red, blue and white dyed cloth, but rather it is symbolic and points to what the Confederacy represents in the mind of those who don it.
 

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The natural question is then, what is Kanye’s instrumental use of the Confederate flag pointing to and for what reason.

“React how you want,” he said during an interview with radio station Los Angeles 97.1 AMP. “Any energy you got is good energy. I represented slavery, my abstract take on what I know about it, I wrote New Slaves. So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. What are you going to do?”

I debated did this even warrant a response as Kanye has clearly set himself as a part of the now alternative hip hop group genre. Alternative hip hop encompasses these disparate artists and groups that don’t even like the label “alternative” hip hop, but they exist jumping between the margins and the center. Alternative hip hop emerged in the 1990s, but to a larger audience nearly two decades later, those artists seem mainstream now. Groups like Jurassic 5 or even Outkast at one time were considered alternative, now are definitely mainstays in the hip hop millieu. The new class of alternative hip hop natives includes born in the 1990s and have barely crossed the threshold of their 21st birthday: such as OGWGKTA, from Tyler the Creator, and slightly older ones like N.E.R.D., Childish Gambino, Lupe Fiasco. Also, let it be noted, as hip hop itself as a music genre is always morphing into what it will be itself. There are moments listening to the “mainstream” artists where the timbre of the tracks themselves hearken on musical engineering akin to the hip hop alternative.

But this classification gives the artist the space to be, well, weird. In an era where prank movies like “Jackass” can rake in millions, and where social media gives a window to watch the antics of what amounts to more thank just pranks, but actual random acts of violence, I have to be honest, I’m a bit concerned as a global citizen about where is this all going. The nihilism that paints the backdrop to which much of these lyrics, music and fashion is birthed. While I am all for free expression, I all for having a pointed direction in what it is one is doing.

I think the scary part in Kanye’s c00nery is that he’s simply doing it because he can. It’s the old school equivalent of a rich guy buying his 7th car, not because he needs it, not even because he wants it, but doing it because he can–and he’s bored. There’s not intrinsic value attached to Kanye reappropriating the Confederate flag other than to add another entry into his Wikipedia page under “controversy.” Kanye didn’t do for money because the only place that would knowingly carry those flags would be the truck stop off of I-20 just this side of the Mississippi state line. No major department stores will ever carry that for mass distribution. The only place they will sell will be the pop-up stores at his concert venues.

And we wonder why people feel it’s okay to dress up in blackface for Halloween.

Now I’m not making the argument that Kanye should be grand “race uplifter” like this is the height of the Civil Rights movement, but I am having issue with a culture that seemingly has no ground to stand that seems to be directly affecting some of the random violence. No, I’m not trying to be a curmudgeon declaring some end of the world cataclysm and go around quote Yeats’ “things fall apart, the centre cannot hold” as though doom is here, but I am saying that if you stand for nothing, you’ll fall for anything. The unfortunate part of that is that some of what you fall for may be falling toward your death and destruction. Or in this specific case with Kanye, I see him as hip hop’s Confederate c00n.

The clashing irony of stanning for the Confederacy while at the same time being a c00n is the rarefied space in which Kanye and Kaye alone occupies. His black skin and still other cultural signifiers identify him as black, yet he’s reclaiming the Confederate flag. No this isn’t something birthed out of the grand satirical comedy of Dave Chappelle as Clayton Bigsby, but rather Kanye enters the c00n space because he seems to fail to see how what he’s doing is perpetuating more harm than good; he’s being overtly selfish. He’s not reclaiming it for some greater purpose (even those who said “nikka” is a term of endearment have attempted to make it for a greater service), but he’s reclaiming it just because he can!

As countercultural as I position myself, I don’t see the value of doing something just to be doing it. Perhaps that does come from my religious trajectory and I have no problems admitting that as a crutch to understanding the unmitigated freedom that doing what you want when you want provides. It fuels Kanye’s god-like complex; the notion of God’s sovereignty–God can do what God wants, when God wants, how God wants and to whomever God wants–is real and it’s something that Kanye certainly embodies. Despite all of the deity aspirations put forth by 5-percenters or the like, Kanye, again, doesn’t seem to have a hold onto why he’s doing what he
 
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