Kanye West: Kim Kardashian >>>>>> Michelle Obama

[Poitier]

Just to be clear, do Michelle Obama's accomplishments have to be unique in order for them to be respected?

I mean if you're using that as a measuring stick, Kim Kardashian getting rich isn't exactly unique.
The country has 13 million "millionaires".

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101099732

How many Ivy League degree holders are there?

She isn't savvy her mom is the puppeteer. She turned that tragedy of a video with her getting pissed on into opportunity and the kardashians into a brand.

Like I said, people could say Dame Dash masterminded The Roc and not Jay Z.

 

[Remote]

How many Ivy League degree holders are there?



Like I said, people could say Dame Dash masterminded The Roc and not Jay Z.

I'm not going down this road.
I think you should just make your case for why Kim is more influential or more accomplished than the 1st Black First Lady of the United States.
Or if you did so, let me know what page it's on.

I really can't see you making a strong case, though.

 

[Lana Kane]

And this is the part of the debate where the fukk boys pretend only black women don't like Kim Kardashian.

Ignoring and glossing over all you need to read TMZ and DailyMail WHITE PEOPLE can't stand her either.

But ofcourse its only black women hating on her

White people call Kim a fat porn star nikka lover but they see her in a 'positive light' right ?

right... @Poitier

The way they go in though

 

[Poitier]

I'm not going down this road.
I think you should just make your case for why Kim is more influential or more accomplished than the 1st Black First Lady of the United States.
Or if you did so, let me know what page it's on.

I really can't see you making a strong case, though.

I already did. She has multiple multi-million dollar ventures. Tangible measure of "accomplishments." Being married is not an accomplishment in of itself.

 

[Theraflu]

How many Ivy League degree holders are there?

What's the accomplishment of two people in a country where the system is built to turn against you and everyone of your race working hard to get into the best school they could and then rising to being the most powerful couple in America.

Michelle didn't do shyt right? Can you tell me what your father and mother achieved and EVERY SINGLE person in your BLOODLINE achieved that's higher than the Obama's accomplishments. Since they ain't done shyt.

Please tell me all about how you went to Harvard and became the first Black First couple in America.

Please tell me about how you did the same since it's so easy.

I'm guessing you have your Harvard degree handling in your room right now ?

right ?

 

[Poitier]

What's the accomplishment of two people in a country where the system is built to turn against you and everyone of your race working hard to get into the best school they could and then rising to being the most powerful couple in America.

Michelle didn't do shyt right? Can you tell me what your father and mother achieved and EVERY SINGLE person in your BLOODLINE achieved that's higher than the Obama's accomplishments. Since they ain't done shyt.

Please tell me all about how you went to Harvard and became the first Black First couple in America.

Please tell me about how you did the same since it's so easy.

I'm guessing you have your Harvard degree handling in your room right now ?

right ?

I didn't say Michelle didn't accomplish anything, sure she did, just not to the magnitude of Kim.

Where did I say The Obama's "didn't do shyt?" Are you delusional?

Ad hominem is a sure sign of weakness in a debate, you know that right?

If you want to argue that Michelle is more virtuous than Kim? I'd agree
If you wanted to argue that Michelle is more educated and intelligent? I'd agree
If you wanted to argue that Michelle is more empathetic and socially aware? I'd agree
If you want to argue that she is more powerful? I'd agree

I don't agree that she has accomplished more or is more successful. She can't have everything. She's no Greek goddess and even they had weaknesses.

Be fukkin real and objective

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Persians are not White, breh.



This would be true if it were not for the fact that Kim didn't just get rich off a sextape. She has TONS of million dollar ventures that only a person with a brain and business savvy could do. Where are all these other 50 million dollar porn stars roaming around?

Her mom bruh her mom ... not her.

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

She's a non black girl with azz that got fukked by an r&b singer Brandy's Brother and became a celebrity socialite/bustdown.

 

[Poitier]

Her mom bruh her mom ... not her.

She's worth more than her mom

Like I keep repeating, you might as well say Jay's fortune is all because of Dame Dash, but you don't. Why?

Stop making excuses why her money and businesses are hers.

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Seems like people are saying that Kim is more successful than Michelle because Kim has created a media empire worth millions and Michelle hasn't.
That's one way to measure success, I guess.
Michelle Obama is married to the most powerful man on earth. That's another way to measure it.
As far as who is more influential, well, all I can say is that I hope more young women would try to grow up with Michelle Obama as their example rather than Kim Kardashian.

Exactemundo... why does that not count? She helped him get to where he is at today.. and I garuantee you that when Obama leaves office the contracts and businesses that he will have in his name( which michelle will own half of) will dwarf all the Kardashians money put together. You guys are really trying to vehemetly defend this fukkery of a topic?

 

[Poitier]

When your argument fails, simply act like Barack's accomplishments are Michelle's, brehs.

 

[Lana Kane]

When your argument fails, simply act like Barack's accomplishments are Michelle's, brehs.

Aren't you doing that with Kim though? We all know Kris Jenner is the mastermind behind the Kardashian klan as a whole but you continue to act like it's all Kim. It's not, Kim is merely a pawn in her mom's fame hungry game of chess so stop.

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

She's worth more than her mom

Like I keep repeating, you might as well say Jay's fortune is all because of Dame Dash, but you don't. Why?

Stop making excuses why her money and businesses are hers.

Bad comparison Jay-z is an artist/business man so he actually contributes to that fortune. Roc-a-fella was jay biggs and dame from the beginning. It's reality and not excuses.

 

[Theraflu]

I didn't say Michelle didn't accomplish anything, sure she did, just not to the magnitude of Kim.

Where did I say The Obama's "didn't do shyt?" Are you delusional?

Ad hominem is a sure sign of weakness in a debate, you know that right?

If you want to argue that Michelle is more virtuous than Kim? I'd agree
If you wanted to argue that Michelle is more educated and intelligent? I'd agree
If you wanted to argue that Michelle is more empathetic and socially aware? I'd agree
If you want to argue that she is more powerful? I'd agree

I don't agree that she has accomplished more or is more successful. She can't have everything. She's no Greek goddess and even they had weaknesses.

Be fukkin real and objective

Okay you seem really dumb so I'll have to break this down to you.

Success: A prosperous accomplishment. Read that again a prosperous accomplishment. To be the single most important couple is SUCCESS. Google success an element of success IS power. SO you're very dumb to not realize the measure of a person's success is measured by the prosperous accomplishments they've made.

Read a damn dictionary.

Go back to school.

Get your GED.

Read a book.

Get off Instragram and stop living vicariously through celebrities

FYI

Objective:

Subjective

You're arguing a subjective view which is your own.

However the objective view on the measure of success between the leaders of the biggest greatest economy of the world and a random celebrity who lives in Los Angeles.

Kim Kardashian LIVES in Los Angeles. The Obama's control the person who CONTROLS Los Angeles.

I can't fathom how any intelligent person can't grasp this.

The Obama's are at the highest position any American couple CAN GET TO FROM NOTHING.

Kim Kardashian was ALWAYS rich, she did NOT come from NOTHING nor have to work hard for anything.

Her father was rich and she got fame from Ray J she didn't have to actually DO anything.

Michelle DID have to do a fukking lot to get to where she is.

So yes she has accomplished more and is more successful.

To accomplish :to achieve.

Michelle has achieved significantly if we measure how far she came than Kim K ever will.

I never though I'd have to teach a nikka what basic word mean but Jesus Christ.

This celebrity worship has really fukked people up

If you don't understand this you're a lost cause.

Just go get some factory work. No hope for you breh.

 

[Poitier]

Bad comparison Jay-z is an artist/business man so he actually contributes to that fortune. Roc-a-fella was jay biggs and dame from the beginning. It's reality and not excuses.

Kim isn't a business woman? You sound obviously biased and like a scorned female, breh. It's a totally apt comparison.