Just Rewatched Flashpoint Paradox & Found A Big Problem

[Devilinurear]

I don't know where dude was going with the thread but my interpretation was, why would Bruce care about his Dad's sentiments when they were from a dad in an alternate reality/universe. The movie made it seem as if both Bruce and his father would have felt the same way about either being alive when either could have had differing feelings about the other based on how those timelines played out.

Bruce would care. His parents getting killed is a huge part of his life.
Also it shows (at least to Bruce) that his decision to pursue justice is something he shares with his pops.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

nikka, I didn't make the thread so Im not nitpicking anything I've said in two posts it's not a big problem like the thread starter claimed. That said, the father of the Bruce Wayne who received the letter is dead in that particular timeline. That Bruce Wayne's dad was killed; he never became a ruthless crime fighter who killed people, he died. Flash created a new timeline and interacted with a whole new Thomas Wayne. I personally don't care about the particulars, but it's not nitpicking to point out that the two are unrelated, thus making alternate Thomas Wayne's pride in regular Bruce moot.

you aksed why would bruce care
and started talking about not being his real dad
thats nit picking

 

[obarth]

Nah its not an alternate universe or alternate dimension

I'm convinced you're bipolar

Thats even worse, thats two worlds colliding!!!!!!

I don't even know why I responded to this thread considering who made it

Bruce would care. His parents getting killed is a huge part of his life.
Also it shows (at least to Bruce) that his decision to pursue justice is something he shares with his pops.

I know Bruce's story. I know why he would feel some type of way about getting a letter from his pops. My point is that it wasn't a letter from his pops. It was a letter from a Thomas Wayne from an alternate timeline. An alternate timeline where Bruce is dead So you can't just assume that things would go exactly the same, or that people would have the same personalities in each timeline. The Thomas Wayne that died in the original timeline and the Thomas Wayne that becomes Batman in the alternate timeline are two different people. The letter is written out of sentiment that atleast a version of his deceased son can know what a version of his dad felt about him. The letter is received by the original timeline's Bruce Wayne with the same sentiment, despite it not being his real dad.

you aksed why would bruce care
and started talking about not being his real dad
thats nit picking

No it's not nitpicking. It's an observation and observations like that always come up whenever time travel is concerned. For it to be nitpicking I'd have to actually give a fukk and believe it was a problem with the movie, which I don't.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

I'm convinced you're bipolar

I don't even know why I responded to this thread considering who made it

I know Bruce's story. I know why he would feel some type of way about getting a letter from his pops. My point is that it wasn't a letter from his pops. It was a letter from a Thomas Wayne from an alternate timeline. An alternate timeline where Bruce is dead So you can't just assume that things would go exactly the same, or that people would have the same personalities in each timeline. The Thomas Wayne that died in the original timeline and the Thomas Wayne that becomes Batman in the alternate timeline are two different people. The letter is written out of sentiment that atleast a version of his deceased son can know what a version of his dad felt about him. The letter is received by the original timeline's Bruce Wayne with the same sentiment, despite it not being his real dad.

No it's not nitpicking. It's an observation and observations like that always come up whenever time travel is concerned. For it to be nitpicking I'd have to actually give a fukk and believe it was a problem with the movie, which I don't.

Don't forget to add the fact that through Bruce's death a grown Thomas Wayne decided to become batman as a symbol of justice meanwhile in original timeline an 8 yr old Bruce decided to do and become the same thing.
That letter also probably pointed out the fact that he is just like his father and that he was proud of this version on his son.

 

[obarth]

Don't forget to add the fact that through Bruce's death a grown Thomas Wayne decided to become batman as a symbol of justice meanwhile in original timeline an 8 yr old Bruce decided to do and become the same thing.
That letter also probably pointed out the fact that he is just like his father and that he was proud of this version on his son.

I understand the parallels, but that grown Thomas Wayne was not the same thing that the grown Bruce Wayne became. Thomas Wayne took out his anger and despair on criminals in murderous ways. Bruce fights for justice in the name of his deceased parents while refusing to stoop to the levels that caused their murders in the first place. I'd say Thomas Wayne was a symbol of vengeance moreso than justice but then that opens up a can of worms over what the difference really is between the two.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

I understand the parallels, but that grown Thomas Wayne was not the same thing that the grown Bruce Wayne became. Thomas Wayne took out his anger and despair on criminals in murderous ways. Bruce fights for justice in the name of his deceased parents while refusing to stoop to the levels that caused their murders in the first place. I'd say Thomas Wayne was a symbol of vengeance moreso than justice but then that opens up a can of worms over what the difference really is between the two.

I agree... i was just pointing out how its weird an 8 yr ... or 9 or 10 depending on who tells the origin..... grew up with the same vision in his head..
And Bruce is vengeance as must as he is justice...." I am vengeance .. I am the Night .... yadda ya " he just scared to use guns or kill..

Anyway to go back to the OP ... that is BS ... now if the letter said on day so and so you gonna die so dont be there thats something else... but flash didnt time travel he universe travel (which has the same time) therefore the letter has no effect on anything ..... so its no Paradox ... unlike when marty almost caused his parents from not getting together