Just like Jay-Z, Diddy is claiming the liquor he "owned" at Diageo was ripping him & wants billions; All these dudes are damn mascots for bullshyt

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Raise your standards man.
These dudes aren't rich off music. it's cheap Chinese goods or liquor. Why do we need to lie about this?

In WHAT. Wtf are you even talking about. Rich off cheap Chinese goods you mean like Jack Ma and alibaba? You postin using a ‘cheap Chinese good’. :mjtf:


It sounds like Diddy never had actual ownership. He was essentially moving white label liquor under a specific brand and keeping half the profit. He owned the marketing company, not the actual liquor.
It’s not obsessive, it’s annoying. They used the idea that Ciroc was a black owned business to sell products that were not black owned
:mjtf:

When the underline is true why the fukk would you care about the semantics of the bolded. You can call him part owner or call him the bloody janitor who gives a shyt. It’s no different than when one co-owner is operational vs another is administrative. Which is why I brought up the Lakers who have similarly complex ownership

Just pathetic man. He’s taking half the fukking profit. But let you tell it he needs to go down to France and stomp the grapes himself. Again, ONLY NGGAS
 

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In WHAT. Wtf are you even talking about. Rich off cheap Chinese goods you mean like Jack Ma and alibaba? You postin using a ‘cheap Chinese good’. :mjtf:



:mjtf:

When the underline is true why the fukk would you care about the semantics of the bolded. You can call him part owner or call him the bloody janitor who gives a shyt. It’s no different than when one co-owner is operational vs another is administrative. Which is why I brought up the Lakers who have similarly complex ownership

Just pathetic man. He’s taking half the fukking profit. But let you tell it he needs to go down to France and stomp the grapes himself. Again, ONLY NGGAS

Yeah these dudes are just talking because the Chinese have the largest economy on earth and have scared the US extra white because of Chinese goods (many of which aren't cheap but are quite expensive like ships, airplanes, and cars that they produce more of than any country on earth).

As for partial vs full ownership. Most of the wealthy don't have full ownership of any company.

Because even Bill Gates doesn't have full ownership of Microsoft. Which means according to some on the coli that he's just a mascot for the company:mjlol:

But that's how it goes for most corporations. They have shareholders who partially own it in addition to the founders.

Such as Apple, Facebook, and Uber among other companies.
 
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Yeah these dudes are just talking because the Chinese have the largest economy on earth and have scared the US extra white because of Chinese goods (many of which aren't cheap but are quite expensive like ships, airplanes, and cars that they produce more of than any country on earth).

As for partial vs full ownership. Most of the wealthy don't have full ownership of any company.

Because even Bill Gates doesn't have full ownership of Microsoft. Which means according to some on the coli that he's just a mascot for the company
:mjlol:

But that's how it goes for most corporations. They have shareholders who partially own it in addition to the founders.

Such as Apple, Facebook, and Uber among other companies.
Smh exactly. Buddy really said ‘he’s not the actual owner he just takes half the profit’. :gucci: Can’t even make this shyt up
 

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In WHAT. Wtf are you even talking about. Rich off cheap Chinese goods you mean like Jack Ma and alibaba? You postin using a ‘cheap Chinese good’. :mjtf:



:mjtf:

When the underline is true why the fukk would you care about the semantics of the bolded. You can call him part owner or call him the bloody janitor who gives a shyt. It’s no different than when one co-owner is operational vs another is administrative. Which is why I brought up the Lakers who have similarly complex ownership

Just pathetic man. He’s taking half the fukking profit. But let you tell it he needs to go down to France and stomp the grapes himself. Again, ONLY NGGAS
and then the real owners decide we got enough of this deal so let’s distribute this to black neighborhoods only and limits this brands growth while they supported George Clooney liquor more.
Smh exactly. Buddy really said ‘he’s not the actual owner he just takes half the profit’. :gucci: Can’t even make this shyt up

He’s suing them now because as actual owners they are fukking him on the deal because they control the product’s distribution and put a cap on the market based on what they saw as a lack of growth opportunities with anyone not black. The real owners of ciroc decided it was only meant to be marketed to black people and then focused on George Clooney’s liquor since they thought that would sell to white people. They basically told Diddy, we are done sharing with you, we want to move on to the white market now.

Anyhow wtf does any of this have to do with the fact he put it out there that he owned Ciroc as a marketing tactic. You’re out here calling black men Nikkas because we’re using critical thinking and pointing out how he exploited the idea of “black ownership” to sell someone else’s product. All this after the news came out he’s suing the real owners of Ciroc because they are fukking him on the backend due to racism.

You’re obviously going to say some more shyt ignoring reality and acting like a paycheck is the same thing as ownership. That’s not even the main issue. It’s just crazy, you’re trying to act high and mighty over all of us being lied to. It’s been over 15 years of everyone thinking Diddy owned Ciroc.
 

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and then the real owners decide we got enough of this deal so let’s distribute this to black neighborhoods only and limits this brands growth while they supported George Clooney liquor more.


He’s suing them now because as actual owners they are fukking him on the deal because they control the product’s distribution and put a cap on the market based on what they saw as a lack of growth opportunities with anyone not black. The real owners of ciroc decided it was only meant to be marketed to black people and then focused on George Clooney’s liquor since they thought that would sell to white people. They basically told Diddy, we are done sharing with you, we want to move on to the white market now.

Anyhow wtf does any of this have to do with the fact he put it out there that he owned Ciroc as a marketing tactic. You’re out here calling black men Nikkas because we’re using critical thinking and pointing out how he exploited the idea of “black ownership” to sell someone else’s product. All this after the news came out he’s suing the real owners of Ciroc because they are fukking him on the backend due to racism.

You’re obviously going to say some more shyt ignoring reality and acting like a paycheck is the same thing as ownership. That’s not even the main issue. It’s just crazy, you’re trying to act high and mighty over all of us being lied to. It’s been over 15 years of everyone thinking Diddy owned Ciroc.
Yes, Diddy is being treated poorly because of racism.

Thats not good and he has a right call out their disceminatiory practices.

BUT...

This is a repeated thing we see outta these guys. Bruh is pushing liquor then wants us to run to his defense when "them folks" do him wrong but nothing was wrong when he was trying to convince people he was some big boss doing big shyt.

its annoying and we need better standards of things marketed to us.
 

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I’m now convinced cats are just ignorant, in the true sense of the word: you just don’t know. So let’s help you out especially @certified

Ciroc was created in 2003. Diddy and Diageo came along in 2007. So this wasn’t Diageo’s liquor either. Both Diageo and Diddy went to Ciroc to do the same thing: piggyback off that existing liquor each using their speciality, Diageo distributes, puff promotes. Both tasks were equally needed, as evident by the fact:

They share profits 50-50.​


And at that time you can argue Puff’s role was worth more. Cîroc was nothing until Diddy blasted it.

They are 50/50 partners. Complaining about your partner not doing their job does not preclude you from being an owner. We see corporations sue/complain about the celeb not promoting all the time. But when that happens, you don’t think ‘oh they must not own it’. Bc your brain is conditioned to always view them people as superior :mjpls:
 

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and then the real owners decide we got enough of this deal so let’s distribute this to black neighborhoods only and limits this brands growth while they supported George Clooney liquor more.


He’s suing them now because as actual owners they are fukking him on the deal because they control the product’s distribution and put a cap on the market based on what they saw as a lack of growth opportunities with anyone not black. The real owners of ciroc decided it was only meant to be marketed to black people and then focused on George Clooney’s liquor since they thought that would sell to white people. They basically told Diddy, we are done sharing with you, we want to move on to the white market now.

Anyhow wtf does any of this have to do with the fact he put it out there that he owned Ciroc as a marketing tactic. You’re out here calling black men Nikkas because we’re using critical thinking and pointing out how he exploited the idea of “black ownership” to sell someone else’s product. All this after the news came out he’s suing the real owners of Ciroc because they are fukking him on the backend due to racism.

You’re obviously going to say some more shyt ignoring reality and acting like a paycheck is the same thing as ownership. That’s not even the main issue. It’s just crazy, you’re trying to act high and mighty over all of us being lied to. It’s been over 15 years of everyone thinking Diddy owned Ciroc.
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Diageo cites Diddy rape claims in renewed push to keep him out of tequila ads​

Sean Combs, who denied and promptly settled the allegations, faces criticism from various corners of his commercial empire, from his liquor partnership to his media brand.​

Nov. 22, 2023, 1:32 PM EST
Sean Diddy Combs attends a Deleon Tequila launch party in New York in 2014.

After settling rape and abuse allegations with the singer Cassie last week, Sean “Diddy” Combs is facing growing scrutiny in the midst of his push to refresh and expand a business portfolio he spent decades cultivating.

In a letter filed with a New York court Friday, the London-based spirit maker Diageo cited the accusations to bolster its monthslong effort to prevent Combs from serving as the face of DeLeón tequila, which he has run in a joint venture with it for a decade.

The letter came after a series of lawsuits Combs filed against Diageo, whose other brands include Johnnie Walker, Don Julio and Smirnoff.


In May, he accused the company of pigeonholing DeLeón and Cîroc, the vodka he fronted for 15 years, as “Black brands” for “urban” consumers, allegedly violating an equal treatment provision in their contract. In a subsequent October complaint, Combs said Diageo had blackballed him from the spirit industry over his racial discrimination claims, which have been put on ice until next spring. He alleged in last month’s retaliation suit that the company was sending him the message “speak up and you will be punished.”

Diageo ended the Cîroc partnership over the summer, saying at the time that Combs had breached his contract. But the parties are still feuding over the use of up to $15 million in advertising and promotional budget, including for DeLeón’s marketing next year.


Sean Combs 50th Birthday Bash Presented By Ciroc Vodka
Combs attended a party in 2019 featuring Cîroc, the vodka line he fronted for 15 years.Kevin Mazur / Getty Images for Sean Combs
In recent months, Diageo has argued in court documents that Combs’ accusations of racism, which it denies, have already made him an ineffective spokesperson. The new “public and disturbing accusations” against the music mogul risk “devastating and permanent damage” to the tequila brand, the company said Friday, adding that one influencer had already asked to cut ties with DeLeón on moral grounds.

In its court letter, Diageo pointed to a statement by Combs' lawyer to The New York Times indicating the artist was aware that Cassie wanted to expose details of their relationship for at least six months before they emerged publicly. That period, the company said, “happens to correspond with the pendency of Combs Wines’ original lawsuit against Diageo.”


Diageo didn’t respond to requests for comment. A spokesperson for Roberta Kaplan, a lawyer representing the company in the retaliation case, declined to comment beyond the statements in the court documents.

A spokesperson for Combs didn’t comment on the Diageo dispute but said the decision to settle with Cassie, whose legal name is Casandra Ventura, “does not in any way undermine his flat-out denial of the claims. He is happy they got to a mutual settlement and wishes Ms. Ventura the best.”

In the days after the rape accusations emerged, scrutiny of Combs and members of his business circle has intensified. On Wednesday, his music label, Bad Boy Records, was sued along with its parent company and former president, Harve Pierre, accusing Pierre of sexually assaulting an unnamed assistant at the label.

“The allegations are from many years ago that were never brought to the attention of the company,” a Bad Boy Entertainment spokesperson said. “Neither the plaintiff nor the executive are current employees of the company. We are now investigating the allegations, and our top priority is the safety and well-being of our employees.”
 
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