Just curious: Do you consider anybody outside of "Africans" as black?

[Kuro]

nope...

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

So when you say "Africans" you don't actually mean "people from Africa" right?

Anyway...well a lot of people in Africa don't identify as "Black", I mean if you ask them their colour they'll tell you that they're Black but thats not something they identify with on some "Black unity" shyt or whatever. Same with Europeans, most wouldn't identify themselves as "White" but rather as French, Italian, German...this whole "Black" or "White" thing as an identifier is very much linked to the history of the US (and South Africa)...

I think I see what you're saying, but "Black" is not really about the colour but more with physical features, and then history. Aboriginals in Australia are very dark, but not many would call them "Black", they call them Aboriginals (even though I believe I some might call them black too). Same with some Indians who are very dark, but their physical features are quite different from Sub-Saharean black Africans, and anyway their history is way too different.

And don't be mistaken, while a White American and another White man MAY more easily "connect", don't forget that there is great diversity among "white" people too: Italians are not like Norwegians, some North Africans consider themselves "white" (as opposed to sub-saharean Blacks), Spanish people are not like Russians...and it's not because two persons are white that it will be all gravy between them, teh example you took is between an American and a South-African, who are culturally close (both are "Westernized", both speak English), it would be much different between an American and a Serb for example.

Good post, but don't forget that whites didn't just start attacking or hating blacks with the US. There's a long history of them causing trouble among black people.

Your point on the diversity among white people. At the end of the day, the 1st thing a person registers in their brain when he or she sees a person is their "race" or color. Consciously or unconsciously, everybody registers that in their brain. When people say "I don't see color", that's BS. You may judge that person on their actions but you first say consciously or unconsciously that is(or is not)my brother or sister.

 

[Mowgli]

You're better than this stop it, it's digus...well you know

Can you give me a masculine response? Thats all im asking for.

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

What are you confused on bruh?

 

[George Gooney]

Can you give me a masculine response? Thats all im asking for.

The fact that i fractured my keyboard typing solely with my index finger should be masculine enough...




EDIT You were talking about clinton not obama...My bad. im out to get a new keyboard

 

[Mowgli]

The fact that i fractured my keyboard typing solely with my index finger should be masculine enough...




EDIT You were talking about clinton not obama...My bad. im out to get a new keyboard

If there was a pic of obama he is being blocked on my network. I was talking about clinton.

 

[daze23]

How is he our first black president? Hes not black.

 

[Mowgli]

BILL CLINTON SAXOPHONE 1992 - YouTube

What is this. I see a white man playing the saxaphone.

 

[up in here]

So when you say "Africans" you don't actually mean "people from Africa" right?

Anyway...well a lot of people in Africa don't identify as "Black", I mean if you ask them their colour they'll tell you that they're Black but thats not something they identify with on some "Black unity" shyt or whatever. Same with Europeans, most wouldn't identify themselves as "White" but rather as French, Italian, German...this whole "Black" or "White" thing as an identifier is very much linked to the history of the US (and South Africa)...

I think I see what you're saying, but "Black" is not really about the colour but more with physical features, and then history. Aboriginals in Australia are very dark, but not many would call them "Black", they call them Aboriginals (even though I believe I some might call them black too). Same with some Indians who are very dark, but their physical features are quite different from Sub-Saharean black Africans, and anyway their history is way too different.

And don't be mistaken, while a White American and another White man MAY more easily "connect", don't forget that there is great diversity among "white" people too: Italians are not like Norwegians, some North Africans consider themselves "white" (as opposed to sub-saharean Blacks), Spanish people are not like Russians...and it's not because two persons are white that it will be all gravy between them, teh example you took is between an American and a South-African, who are culturally close (both are "Westernized", both speak English), it would be much different between an American and a Serb for example.

Australian Aborigines are defintiely Black. They identify as Black and call themselves "Blackfellas" as a general term for themselves. They even had a Black power movement in the 70s based on the Black Power movement in the US. Apartheid was actually based on Australian laws. In Fiji and Papua New Guini they call themselves Black too. I would consider them Black.

Now Indians, alot of the time even if they are dark they call themselves Brown. I've never met an Indian who called themselves Black. I have however met some Sri Lankans who called themselves Black, so I would consider them Black, meanwhile other Sri Lankans call themselves Brown. Same as native New Zealanders, I've met some who call themselves Black and others who called themselves Brown.

 

[El Bombi]

This thread was just done already.

*1 star thread.

 

[daze23]

I see a white man playing the saxaphone.

does... not... compute...

 

[emoney]

smh

 

[mbewane]

Australian Aborigines are defintiely Black. They identify as Black and call themselves "Blackfellas" as a general term for themselves. They even had a Black power movement in the 70s based on the Black Power movement in the US. Apartheid was actually based on Australian laws. In Fiji and Papua New Guini they call themselves Black too. I would consider them Black.

Now Indians, alot of the time even if they are dark they call themselves Brown. I've never met an Indian who called themselves Black. I have however met some Sri Lankans who called themselves Black, so I would consider them Black, meanwhile other Sri Lankans call themselves Brown. Same as native New Zealanders, I've met some who call themselves Black and others who called themselves Brown.

Oh Ok, I had a hunch (based on some movie or documentary I saw) that Aboriginals did call themselves Black but wasn't sure. Had no idea about the Black Power movement, nor that Apartheid was based on Australian laws. Didn't know for Sri Lankans either. Props for the info.

 

[theworldismine13]

Not this thread again