Just curious: Do you consider anybody outside of "Africans" as black?
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well this gets into the fact that black as a color isn't really what we talk about when we say black
we're talking about the recent african diaspora brought together under one identity
same way white isn't what we really mean when we say white.. east asians and many arabs and central asians are 'lighter' shades than 'white' people
we're talking about the recent african diaspora brought together under one identity
same way white isn't what we really mean when we say white.. east asians and many arabs and central asians are 'lighter' shades than 'white' people
yep, they're all labels that fail at some point
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
Wasn't there a similar thread a couple of days ago?
Anyway first of all "Africans" itself is a complex label, since you have people from North-Africa that are not Black, people from Eastern Africa (Somalia, Ethiopia, Erithrea, Djibouti) who may or may not identidy themselves as "Black", and then you have white South-Africans who are Africans, but white. Not even talking about Madagascar, that's a whole other issue even though they are also Africans.
But I guess you mean Sub-Saharean Black Africans.
That being said, yeah Black people outside of Africa are Black too...why wouldn't they be?
Anyway first of all "Africans" itself is a complex label, since you have people from North-Africa that are not Black, people from Eastern Africa (Somalia, Ethiopia, Erithrea, Djibouti) who may or may not identidy themselves as "Black", and then you have white South-Africans who are Africans, but white. Not even talking about Madagascar, that's a whole other issue even though they are also Africans.
But I guess you mean Sub-Saharean Black Africans.
That being said, yeah Black people outside of Africa are Black too...why wouldn't they be?
Hip-Hop-Bulls
All Star
I ask this because there are a lot of black people who don't identify with Chinese, Japanese, Indians, etc and think they are all by themselves, yet they are actually the majority. It's crazy how white people from America can instantly connect with any other white person regardless of where he or she is but black people in America don't even connect with their brothers and sisters in "Africa". We can actually take that shyt deeper and say blacks in America today don't even connect with themselves here in America.
How did this happen? How did we go from black unity to major black on black crime and demoralizing our women leading to the destruction of our future selves?
Back to the original point, check this out. Tell me this ain't some bs.
Both these dudes are clearly white. One an American, one born in Africa.
Now lets look at this.
You gonna tell me the sister from India ain't black when she is darker than Obama?
The enemy is a crafty dude.
How did this happen? How did we go from black unity to major black on black crime and demoralizing our women leading to the destruction of our future selves?
Back to the original point, check this out. Tell me this ain't some bs.
Both these dudes are clearly white. One an American, one born in Africa.
Now lets look at this.
You gonna tell me the sister from India ain't black when she is darker than Obama?
The enemy is a crafty dude.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
I ask this because there are a lot of black people who don't identify with Chinese, Japanese, Indians, etc and think they are all by themselves, yet they are actually the majority. It's crazy how white people from America can instantly connect with any other white person regardless of where he or she is but black people in America don't even connect with their brothers and sisters in "Africa". We can actually take that shyt deeper and say blacks in America today don't even connect with themselves here in America.
How did this happen? How did we go from black unity to major black on black crime and demoralizing our women leading to the destruction of our future selves?
Back to the original point, check this out. Tell me this ain't some bs.
Both these dudes are clearly white. One an American, one born in Africa.
Now lets look at this.
You gonna tell me the sister from India ain't black when she is darker than Obama?
The enemy is a crafty dude.
So when you say "Africans" you don't actually mean "people from Africa" right?
Anyway...well a lot of people in Africa don't identify as "Black", I mean if you ask them their colour they'll tell you that they're Black but thats not something they identify with on some "Black unity" shyt or whatever. Same with Europeans, most wouldn't identify themselves as "White" but rather as French, Italian, German...this whole "Black" or "White" thing as an identifier is very much linked to the history of the US (and South Africa)...
I think I see what you're saying, but "Black" is not really about the colour but more with physical features, and then history. Aboriginals in Australia are very dark, but not many would call them "Black", they call them Aboriginals (even though I believe I some might call them black too). Same with some Indians who are very dark, but their physical features are quite different from Sub-Saharean black Africans, and anyway their history is way too different.
And don't be mistaken, while a White American and another White man MAY more easily "connect", don't forget that there is great diversity among "white" people too: Italians are not like Norwegians, some North Africans consider themselves "white" (as opposed to sub-saharean Blacks), Spanish people are not like Russians...and it's not because two persons are white that it will be all gravy between them, teh example you took is between an American and a South-African, who are culturally close (both are "Westernized", both speak English), it would be much different between an American and a Serb for example.
our first black president
the problem is people have to much pride and other nonsense wrapped up in these arbitrary labels. the above, "Obama's not black enough", "so-and-so is a c00n", "you're acting white", "you wanna be black", etc
Hip-Hop-Bulls
All Star
We gotta teach everyone the reality of "who are black people", including the European who are just as ignorant as the blacks. It's impossible for the original man and woman to be minorities. The minority is the white "race". The next time you see anybody of color(if you're black), keep in mind that he or she is your brother or sister. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Native American, Eskimo's, Egyptians, Mexican etc. It's the same thing. There are only 2 different people on this planet...
Genesis: 25:23
The Lord said to her,
Two nations are in your womb,
and two peoples from within you will be separated;
one people will be stronger than the other,
and the older will serve the younger.
Dissolve that verse. Don't let the enemy fool you with this "We're just one people!" idea. Look at the state we are in under that idea. Yes we're all humans but there ARE 2 DIFFERENT people, one of a righteous nature, and one of a unrighteous nature. We the Original people are the older serving the young under white supremacy. Until everyone accepts this truth, we can not live out this "We're just one people" dream expecting good results. Once you know the truth then you can accurately plan on how to live righteously regardless of color.
Peace!
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
We gotta teach everyone the reality of "who are black people", including the European who are just as ignorant as the blacks. It's impossible for the original man and woman to be minorities. The minority is the white "race". The next time you see anybody of color(if you're black), keep in mind that he or she is your brother or sister. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Native American, Eskimo's, Egyptians, Mexican etc. It's the same thing. There are only 2 different people on this planet...
Genesis: 25:23
The Lord said to her,
Two nations are in your womb,
and two peoples from within you will be separated;
one people will be stronger than the other,
and the older will serve the younger.
Dissolve that verse. Don't let the enemy fool you with this "We're just one people!" idea. Look at the state we are in under that idea. Yes we're all humans but there ARE 2 DIFFERENT people, one of a righteous nature, and one of a unrighteous nature. We the Original people are the older serving the young under white supremacy. Until everyone accepts this truth, we can not live out this "We're just one people" dream expecting good results. Once you know the truth then you can accurately plan on how to live righteously regardless of color.
Peace!
How is he our first black president? Hes not black.
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
We gotta teach everyone the reality of "who are black people", including the European who are just as ignorant as the blacks. It's impossible for the original man and woman to be minorities. The minority is the white "race". The next time you see anybody of color(if you're black), keep in mind that he or she is your brother or sister. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Native American, Eskimo's, Egyptians, Mexican etc. It's the same thing. There are only 2 different people on this planet...
Genesis: 25:23
The Lord said to her,
Two nations are in your womb,
and two peoples from within you will be separated;
one people will be stronger than the other,
and the older will serve the younger.
Dissolve that verse. Don't let the enemy fool you with this "We're just one people!" idea. Look at the state we are in under that idea. Yes we're all humans but there ARE 2 DIFFERENT people, one of a righteous nature, and one of a unrighteous nature. We the Original people are the older serving the young under white supremacy. Until everyone accepts this truth, we can not live out this "We're just one people" dream expecting good results. Once you know the truth then you can accurately plan on how to live righteously regardless of color.
Peace!
there are a few toms that say anything biblical is written by white people to keep our minds slaved but when they see verses like this they just be like
