June 7th Primaries - The Big Enchilada

[kingofnyc]

He would be running against RNC/DNC with a 2 billion war chest and maybe even more. He would get Pacific Northwest and New Hampshire type states. There is no path to 270 given the fact the he lost 9 of the 10 largest states even among the Democrats. Some of the smaller states he won will also go red in the GE.

i think people are a lil confuse

this whole 'bern or bust' movement only makes like 15-20% of his supporters - at least 60% of them care about the issues more than the movement which only makes one believe in a GE they know he wouldn't have a chance in hell running as a inde & they'll vote for Hillary

 

[kingofnyc]

Texas and one of the Carolinas = most states now?

We've not only got a political genius here, but a mathematical one too makes sense because Clinton supporters are high information voters with critical thinking skills similar to those of the great strategist Hillary.

Oh, and Hillary would certainly lose. She will likely lose anyways.

it might be just them 2 states at this very minute (i hope u know we in June, and the longer one waits the harder its to get on the ballot -see Michael Bloomberg who gots 3 times the money as Trump yet made this statement months ago while deciding to run 3rd party)

and your delusional if u think Hillary will certainly lose
less than 20% of Bernie supporters be on that stupid shyt - and it really dosnt even makes sense to address cause it will never happen

(Bernie succeeded in getting his message across the country... running 3rd party now would defeat the purpose of all the good he did)

 

[wire28]

People hating on Bernie for not dropping out aren't getting the situation. The issues he's bringing ARE NOT going to be brought up by Hillary once the general begins. You don't call for something like a political revolution then give up because "the math is the math"

People are so scared of Trump or like the establishment, waiting to push progressives to the back for more neo lib policies that they are completely ignoring that his message is more important at this point than the candidacy. It would be great if he won but you don't bow out just to gain some political advantage. That's something Hillary does so she can get more power. Bernie's trying to influence the discussion not gain a position or make favors. I mean you got dudes on CNN stating how happy Bernie supporters would be if he was the VP pick and how great it is to have a woman nominee while completely ignoring real discussions on the issues affecting woman or how the progressives don't care about concessions to Hillary.

At this point I'm really worried about this country being too caught up in the pageantry and spectacle to see that shyt isn't that sweet as far as the discourse is concerned.

i understand being a fan and not wanting him to drop out, but you realize this applies for literally every political candidate right?

everyone feels they are apart of a "political revolution", so by that logic, cruz should have never dropped out, or rubio, or carson, or bush, or Carcetti or anybody

 

[88m3]

Bernie lost the big enchilada.

 

[StatUS]

i understand being a fan and not wanting him to drop out, but you realize this applies for literally every political candidate right?

everyone feels they are apart of a "political revolution", so by that logic, cruz should have never dropped out, or rubio, or carson, or bush, or Carcetti or anybody

The message supersedes being a "fan of Bernie." Issues like money in politics, climate change, and income inequality are brush by topics for every other candidate. These issues are greater than Bernie and are being fought for outside of him but he's informed the general public much better than Hillary and the Democratic establishment has or even wishes to. You may disagree and think that he's just like Ted Cruz or something but many see this as something that shouldn't be quelled.

 

[ineedsleep212]

Wednesday's big question: How many uncounted California ballots?

 

[wire28]

The message supersedes being a "fan of Bernie." Issues like money in politics, climate change, and income inequality are brush by topics for every other candidate. These issues are greater than Bernie and are being fought for outside of him but he's informed the general public much better than Hillary and the Democratic establishment has or even wishes to. You may disagree and think that he's just like Ted Cruz or something but many see this as something that shouldn't be quelled.

im saying if you step outside of your bernie fandom and look objectively, every one feels like that.

a passionate rubio supporter feels that he's informed the general public much better than trump, cruz, etc and feel that those issues are important and probably also feel that if he doesnt become president we are doomed. everyone feels that way, so objectively what makes your opinion on your candidate staying in the race when they are mathematically done better than theirs?

edit: like drawing things out will embolden the people who are already behind him. but for everyone else, staying in leaves him open to being perceived in a lot of different ways, many of them negative, including looking like he is bitter and/or trying to steal shine from hillary

 

[StatUS]

im saying if you step outside of your bernie fandom and look objectively, every one feels like that.

a passionate rubio supporter feels that he's informed the general public much better than trump, cruz, etc and feel that those issues are important and probably also feel that if he doesnt become president we are doomed. everyone feels that way, so objectively what makes your opinion on your candidate staying in the race when they are mathematically done better than theirs?

edit: like drawing things out will embolden the people who are already behind him but for everyone else staying in leaves him open to being perceived in a lot of different ways, many of them negative, including looking like he is bitter and/or trying to steal shine from hillary

I still don't understand how you're equating this to the Republican candidates when Bernie's run his whole campaign off of small individual donations that brought him close to half of support from the democratic party. Most of the GOP support is based on large donors telling them when to jump. It doesn't even remotely come close to what his campaign represents, that's just silly.

People are so used to a political process that has candidate x, y, and z talk shyt about each other for months then one comes out on top and the rest magically are on board and support all of the winners positions and statements. Like I said over the years we've gotten so wrapped up in the pageantry that we forgot the issues of the common man aren't really given any play in the process anymore.

I get you Hillary people have wanted him out since the beginning but just be patient, he's no longer a threat to your candidate. Let the process play out for another month like it's supposed to and if yall are so worried about it making people mad just deal with it I guess. There's one more primary left, he'll probably endorse her in some type of way then move on to fighting for progressive values in Philly. If that's a huge problem for some then they can call him a sore loser or whatever makes them feel better.

 

[GhostoftheMan]

Cali held it down once again

 

[wire28]

I still don't understand how you're equating this to the Republican candidates when Bernie's run his whole campaign off of small individual donations that brought him close to half of support from the democratic party. Most of the GOP support is based on large donors telling them when to jump. It doesn't even remotely come close to what his campaign represents, that's just silly.

People are so used to a political process that has candidate x, y, and z talk shyt about each other for months then one comes out on top and the rest magically are on board and support all of the winners positions and statements. Like I said over the years we've gotten so wrapped up in the pageantry that we forgot the issues of the common man aren't really given any play in the process anymore.

I get you Hillary people have wanted him out since the beginning but just be patient, he's no longer a threat to your candidate. Let the process play out for another month like it's supposed to and if yall are so worried about it making people mad just deal with it I guess. There's one more primary left, he'll probably endorse her in some type of way then move on to fighting for progressive values in Philly. If that's a huge problem for some then they can call him a sore loser or whatever makes them feel better.

you keep talking about all this extra shyt. i gave you too much credit and assumed you werent a blind bernie bro but (that alliteration ) but obviously thats not the case.

every citizen thinks their candidate is the best. every citizen thinks their candidate represents "the common man". Bush supporters think he supports the common man. Rubio supporters think he supports the common man. Cruz supporters think he supports the common man. Etc etc etc

they all got beat by people with more votes. the only difference between them and Bernie is you support bernie

i'll end there because again i gave you too much credit and thought you oculd look at the situation objectively instead of "bernies different !"

 

[ineedsleep212]

you keep talking about all this extra shyt. i gave you too much credit and assumed you werent a blind bernie bro but (that alliteration ) but obviously thats not the case.

every citizen thinks their candidate is the best. every citizen thinks their candidate represents "the common man". Bush supporters think he supports the common man. Rubio supporters think he supports the common man. Cruz supporters think he supports the common man. Etc etc etc

they all got beat by people with more votes. the only difference between them and Bernie is you support bernie

i'll end there because again i gave you too much credit and thought you oculd look at the situation objectively instead of "bernies different !"

The difference is this movement is big picture stuff. None of those other folks were pushing a damn thing new in American politics. None of em brought a single issue to light. His campaign run though small donations already has Democratic politicians thirsty for it.

 

[StatUS]

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[El Bombi]

There was no movement.

 

[GzUp]

There was no movement.

I swear there over exaggerating this movement, after Bernie living in my state these past 2 months I swear people still don't know who the fukk he is out here.