Judge Mathis says 50 is Done... EDIT: Bankruptcy Judge Says he's Playing Games :yowzers:

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Another clueless idiot. I'm not re-writing anything. You're just a young dumbfukk talking out your ass like the other dude. Everything 50 has done in his career Pac did better by the time he was 25. Sold more records, acted in much bigger grossing movies and had real critical acclaim as a serious actor, etc. Fifty didn't even start till he was 30.

I never once mentioned anything about post-death Tupac, but keep pulling BS out your ass.

You shouldn't speak on things you know nothing about.

So Pac made better buisness moves by 25 than fif did? Then why did rappers who sold way less than Pac in 96 have more money?
 

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GRODT sold better than AEOM did when Pac was alive.

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You don't even know what the argument is. :mjlol:

Yes 50 had the advantage of coming out at a time with more mainstream coverage and acceptance of hip hop. Like I already said, there was less money and mainstream exposure when Pac was around. Pac had to deal with the damn president calling out his album for a boycott. He had to deal with a shady record label doing him dirty. 50 didn't have to deal with any of that.

The whole purpose of my argument is that if Pac had still been around he would've got to take advantage of the extra exposure and would have caked. There probably wouldn't even have been any room for 50. Just a damn broom.

And the fact that 50 fell off as hard as he did should tell you how much real substance and talent there is behind him as opposed to hype. Pac was raw talent and in higher demand than 50 ever was. He was at the top of his game the entire time. While 50 is in the bushes living off his lucky shot vitamin water investment.

The legacies speak for themselves. 50 is almost a joke now.
 

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Just admit you love pac as an artist and it's clouding your judgement like the other nikka.
Actually you are wrong. I never got into his music lot alot of others. BUT. .I have to admit he was HUGE. I was way more of a Biggie fan myself. But Pac's impact on culture canot be denied.
 
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First off, i clearly said "im not saying i agree or disagree", so who the idiot?

And 2nd you little idiot i been around LONGER than you and i wasnt some CHILD in the 90s like you talking out his ass. And you're comparing an artist with 1 album vs 1 with a career from of a 6-8 year span btw, which wasnt even my point at all either. So stfu and stop acting so sensitive you fukk boy. tryna bark tough online.
aint nobody barking over here, you came at me sideways first calling me a post death fanatic like you know me and I rightfully called you an idiot for it. Don't make assumptions about me you know nothing.

Stay mad you sensitive phaggot.
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Actually you are wrong. I never got into his music lot alot of others. BUT. .I have to admit he was HUGE. I was way more of a Biggie fan myself. But Pac's impact on culture canot be denied.

Yes and a lot of that impact came from death. You must be thinking of Pacs artistic legacy as a whole. I was talking who was more popular (which wasn't even an og arguement).
 

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If you think 50 cent at any point in his career had half the star power pac had at his lowest point then you must be hella young.

50 got rich on the strength of his debut album selling millions and then later investments and opportunities because of that album. Pac already did that but at a time where there was less money in hip hop. Pac would've made at least a couple hundred milly by 2003-04 just on he strength of his popularity (among every race) and the opportunities afforded to him because of it. Gianni Versace was giving him opportunities when no other rapper could touch high level fashion. He was getting close to Quincy jones, plus the fact that he was becoming an established and respected actor.

Dude you're clueless as fukk to think 2pac wouldn't have made just as much as 50 if not more had he still been around. 2pac literally made it possible for 50 to become successful. He already blazed that trail that 50 walked on and he was only 25.

Like I said, clueless as fukk.:what:

Nothing against you, but Pac signed to Deathrow out of desperation. So that contract definitely was not an artist friendly contract.

He would've been ok, but not like you think
 
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Yes and a lot of that impact came from death. You must be thinking of Pacs artistic legacy as a whole. I was talking who was more popular (which wasn't even an og arguement).
No I know exactly what you mean. I am no young dude. I was heavy into hip hop around this time. No offense but how old are you? :skip:

When Pac was living he was everywhere. He was more talented and charismatic than Fif hands down. :yeshrug:
 

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Nothing against you, but Pac signed to Deathrow out of desperation. So that contract definitely was not an artist friendly contract.

He would've been ok, but not like you think
Obviously he wouldn't have stayed on death row forever. All contracts expire at some point. He got what he wanted from the deal and stayed outta jail.

And music wasn't his only source of fame and income. He was arguably the greatest rapper turned actor of all time. He got real legitimate critical acclaim from his movies.
 
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:comeon: at nikkas trying to say Pac when he was alive was more popular than 50 in 03-05, Pac couldn't even Ja Rule' Biggie or Nas, even Jay Z who was a legend by 03 was :whoa: at 50's run.

50 sold a milli first week on his second album... Pac didn't despite AEOM being double disk and 1 purchase of the album counted as two album sales.
 

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:comeon: at nikkas trying to say Pac when he was alive was more popular than 50 in 03-05, Pac couldn't even Ja Rule' Biggie or Nas, even Jay Z who was a legend by 03 was :whoa: at 50's run.

50 sold a milli first week on his second album... Pac didn't despite AEOM being double disk and 1 purchase of the album counted as two album sales.
Already addressed. Hip hop in general was selling a lot more after pac died. There was way more mainstream exposure. Also 50 benefitted MAJOR from being associated with eminem (more whites buying the record)

Pac was coming up at s tune when hip hop was still being shaped for the mainstream.

Record sales from the two different eras is not an accurate assessment of who's more famous.

Bottom line Pac never fell off, as big as he was he still hadn't reached his peak. 50 exposed himself to be a diss gimmick artist and fell off after his 3rd album. He was 1 dimensional, Pac was multidimensional.

Edit: and the bolded is just flat out retarderded. Makes me wonder if all you pro 50 dudes are from NY. Cause people from NY are the most biased people in the world thinking everything revolves around them. A lot of you seriously think everything outside of NY is garbage.
 
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You don't even know what the argument is. :mjlol:

Yes 50 had the advantage of coming out at a time with more mainstream coverage and acceptance of hip hop. Like I already said, there was less money and mainstream exposure when Pac was around. Pac had to deal with the damn president calling out his album for a boycott. He had to deal with a shady record label doing him dirty. 50 didn't have to deal with any of that.

The whole purpose of my argument is that if Pac had still been around he would've got to take advantage of the extra exposure and would have caked. There probably wouldn't even have been any room for 50. Just a damn broom.

And the fact that 50 fell off as hard as he did should tell you how much real substance and talent there is behind him as opposed to hype. Pac was raw talent and in higher demand than 50 ever was. He was at the top of his game the entire time. While 50 is in the bushes living off his lucky shot vitamin water investment.

The legacies speak for themselves. 50 is almost a joke now.
Pac 'sold more records' is the argument you made. It's quoted in the very post above this one that I'm quoting. I corrected you. Argument over.
 

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Pac 'sold more records' is the argument you made. It's quoted in the very post above this one that I'm quoting. I corrected you. Argument over.
But the argument wasn't even about record sales. :mjlol:
 
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