Joy ann reid responds to her speaking on slavery and not being ados

[The Fukin Prophecy]

The truth is when nikkas started talking about holding political candidates accountable that's when all the agents like Joy started coming out of the woodwork all concerned about protecting massas vote...

That said, a lot has been said on both sides causing the community to splinter and this ain't the time for that...ADOS reparations are long overdue but I think we all can agree that orange moron currently in office is a more pressing immediate issue...Trump and the GOP should not be allowed to get 4 more years, him winning again could have dire consequences for the black community...Its like arguing over who gets to keep the house on the beach 24 hours before the hurricane hits...There ain't going to be a house on the beach when the hurricane hits...

What's important now is building a foundation, a movement needs to start somewhere even if its just a website with broad demands...Use this time to flesh those demands out, build a roadmap to achieving the goal and pay no mind to the agents...After this election is over and done with, we'll deal with the agents and politicians they're scared of us holding accountable...

 

[Secure Da Bag]

A lot of this anger stems from WS media influence on both Africans, ADOS, and black people as a whole in the 80s and 90s. There's still a lot of resentment from both sides, especially from childhood. So a lot of this back and forth is gonna happening until everyone gets those issues off their chests.

What ADOS and the greater black community should be asking is: how is US foreign policy gonna change so these immigrants, no matter who they are, don't have to flee their countries because of life-or-death decisions?

 

[Phitz]

Like I always say, mane. "It was all good, until the Rabbit got himself a gun". If you look at the full course of American history, it highlights the fact that AA's have always been the beasts of burden. With every seed we planted, they stole the crops. With every song we sung, they stole the publishing. With every march we started, they showed up afterwards singing, "we shall overcome". You see were I'm going with this? It's people out here who benefit off of OUR success. (ala The Civil Rights Act of 1964, The Voting Rights Act of 65 and The Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965). Our relationship with foreigners have always been commensalistic. Their success in this country is determined by us. That's why they get mad when we start talking about agendas that would benefit AA's exclusively. "YOu sOuND LIkE a TrUMp SuPpoRteR" is a deflection tactic.

Spoiler: One more thing

I don't hate immigrants, but I'm aware of the hypocrisy.

So help me with this logic.... oh let me help you. So you Hoodoo Child determine the success of immigrants? So are you like the hairdresser? Where your hair is always fkd up but you fix everyone elses hair? Is that how it works?

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

So help me with this logic.... oh let me help you. So you Hoodoo Child determine the success of immigrants? So are you like the hairdresser? Where your hair is always fkd up but you fix everyone elses hair? Is that how it works?

Ados blacks put in all work in america.

All those grant programs and any program having to do with civil rights is because of us.

Yall never came here and fought for nothing

 

[OG Talk]

i'm not seeing that it has much to do with financial reparations. it seems a lot of immigrants don't understand the strategy of throwing the baby out with the bathwater (not voting) if presidential candidates don't commit adding reparations in the form of a check to their platform.

most people know that regardless of what a presidential candidate says it will take the full congress to pass any legislation leading to any form of reparations. dems in the house could be persuaded to pass legislation by the reparations movement, but rethugs in the senate already said they won't budge. why are people acting like the president is the most important part of the reparations process? and why isn't there more of a focus on congress, specifically the senate?

more practical folks understand the president is important for other actions that impact policy, like scotus picks, fed judges, how the doj creates law enforcement policy, etc.. this practical thinking makes the strategy of "no votes" a problem because you get nothing in return and you set longer term progress back because now congress is even more in the grasp of political conservatives who have already said they want no part of the reparations discussion.

i don't think black immigrants expect part of the "reparations bag" coming to black americans. i don't think they're jealous. i do think immigrants and a lot of blacks americans are worried about the strategy because it's obvious where this administration is going. allowing them to gain even more power or put even more of their cronies in position of power is a lose lose situation for everyone.

I hear you about the zero sum game of “no check no vote” I personally don’t subscribe to that.But for those that do it’s a personal choice. I’m not going to spend time guilting and shaming folks to fall in line with my values. They don’t owe me shyt.

I’m seeing so called progressive Black people legit get angry because other Black folks are asking basic policy questions.

And quite frankly the dems have been doing a piss poor job of courting the Black vote. Whether it’s congress, senate or at the presidential level. And their surrogates whether in mainstream or social media seem to be failing.

The “Russian Bot” talk is a sign of panic.

 

[Phitz]

Ados blacks put in all work in america.

All those grant programs and any program having to do with civil rights is because of us.

Yall never came here and fought for nothing

YOU didn't do sh*t. MOST immigrants come here and work hard from their own sweat and work together and pool their OWN money WITHOUT grants. You underachieving xenaphobes DO NOT represent African Americans who actually make things happen and also worked hard WITHOUT grants or set asides. Alot of people here(foreign and domestic) who put money together to open restaurants, mechanic shops, and retail stores usually didn't get any grants. FOH with all the xenaphobic flag waving.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

YOU didn't do sh*t. MOST immigrants come here and work hard from their own sweat and work together and pool their OWN money WITHOUT grants. You underachieving xenaphobes DO NOT represent African Americans who actually make things happen and also worked hard WITHOUT grants or set asides. Alot of people here(foreign and domestic) who put money together to open restaurants, mechanic shops, and retail stores usually didn't get any grants. FOH with all the xenaphobic flag waving.

We built this country fam without our sacrifice u couldnt make it here.

All those programs cane from my ancestors and u cant open buisnesses without them.

Foh

 

[BlackAmerican]

These black foreigners are scum. For 55 yrs they told us and any white person who would listen how different they were from us. Now that their folks are getting deported by Trump and we're fighting for Reparations, they're saying we're all black now. These people want to assume 2 identities, where they're an ethic immigrant when convenient, but then also a Black American when it's convenient. These people hate us just as much as whites, but try to make us feel guilty when they can't take advantage of us.

 

[OG Talk]

The truth is when nikkas started talking about holding political candidates accountable that's when all the agents like Joy started coming out of the woodwork all concerned about protecting massas vote...

That said, a lot has been said on both sides causing the community to splinter and this ain't the time for that...ADOS reparations are long overdue but I think we all can agree that orange moron currently in office is a more pressing immediate issue...Trump and the GOP should not be allowed to get 4 more years, him winning again could have dire consequences for the black community...Its like arguing over who gets to keep the house on the beach 24 hours before the hurricane hits...There ain't going to be a house on the beach when the hurricane hits...

What's important now is building a foundation, a movement needs to start somewhere even if its just a website with broad demands...Use this time to flesh those demands out, build a roadmap to achieving the goal and pay no mind to the agents...After this election is over and done with, we'll deal with the agents and politicians they're scared of us holding accountable...

So we keep kicking the can down the road until the Democrats take the White House, Congress and Supreme Court?

Then what?


The Black vote will be totally useless then..They won’t even give you the courtesy of pandering after that happens.





The DNC won’t even send their candidates to The Breakfast Club anymore. They’ll all be at Univision. You heard all those candidates speaking Spanish during the debates? They are showing you what the future of the party will be.



The chaos, division and desperation brought forward by this current administration is the perfect time to push a radical agenda.

Your vote as a Black person in states like Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia and Pennsylvania has never been more valuable.

And nikkas are perfectly comfortable not asking for anything in return. Because of fear...

There’s always gonna be another boogie man to get us off course. You think God stopped making racist cacs with Trump?

You can’t say something is “long overdue” in one breath, then say how “Now”s not the time” with another.

 

[ultraflexed]

So we keep kicking the can down the road until the Democrats take the White House, Congress and Supreme Court?

Then what?


The Black vote will be totally useless then..They won’t even give you the courtesy of pandering after that happens.





The DNC won’t even send their candidates to The Breakfast Club anymore. They’ll all be at Univision. You heard all those candidates speaking Spanish during the debates? They are showing you what the future of the party will be.



The chaos, division and desperation brought forward by this current administration is the perfect time to push a radical agenda.

Your vote as a Black person in states like Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia and Pennsylvania has never been more valuable.

And nikkas are perfectly comfortable not asking for anything in return. Because of fear...

There’s always gonna be another boogie man to get us off course. You think God stopped making racist cacs with Trump?

You can’t say something is “long overdue” in one breath, then say how “Now”s not the time” with another.

Extremely well said brotha...

 

[Hoodoo Child]

So help me with this logic.... oh let me help you. So you Hoodoo Child determine the success of immigrants? So are you like the hairdresser? Where your hair is always fkd up but you fix everyone elses hair? Is that how it works?

My black dollar determines their success.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

So we keep kicking the can down the road until the Democrats take the White House, Congress and Supreme Court?

Then what?


The Black vote will be totally useless then..They won’t even give you the courtesy of pandering after that happens.





The DNC won’t even send their candidates to The Breakfast Club anymore. They’ll all be at Univision. You heard all those candidates speaking Spanish during the debates? They are showing you what the future of the party will be.



The chaos, division and desperation brought forward by this current administration is the perfect time to push a radical agenda.

Your vote as a Black person in states like Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia and Pennsylvania has never been more valuable.

And nikkas are perfectly comfortable not asking for anything in return. Because of fear...

There’s always gonna be another boogie man to get us off course. You think God stopped making racist cacs with Trump?

You can’t say something is “long overdue” in one breath, then say how “Now”s not the time” with another.

So you think risking losing the election to an open white supremacist will get you reparations faster than getting him out of the way now and building up your base?

The rising Hispanic threat weakening the black vote is real, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that and that's why the immigration debate is so important...

But how are you going to actually get anything done this election cycle bruh?

I always preach hold your politicians accountable but you have to take into account the reality of your movement and the threat staring you in the face...There is no shot you getting anything tangible done this election cycle because this movement is still young with a rocky foundation and you don't have the numbers to be taken seriously...So all you reparations or nothing cats going to end up doing is getting 4 more years of an open white supremacist CAC in the oval which will ensure more anti-black policies and set us even further behind the 8 ball...

That's not smart politics my dude...The smart strategy here is removing Trump because with him in office, we ain't getting shyt...

 

[Phitz]

My black dollar determines their success.

 

[OG Talk]

So you think risking losing the election to an open white supremacist will get you reparations faster than getting him out of the way now and building up your base?

The rising Hispanic threat weakening the black vote is real, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that and that's why the immigration debate is so important...

But how are you going to actually get anything done this election cycle bruh?

I always preach hold your politicians accountable but you have to take into account the reality of your movement and the threat staring you in the face...There is no shot you getting anything tangible done this election cycle because this movement is still young with a rocky foundation and you don't have the numbers to be taken seriously...So all you reparations or nothing cats going to end up doing is getting 4 more years of an open white supremacist CAC in the oval which will ensure more anti-black policies and set us even further behind the 8 ball...

That's not smart politics my dude...The smart strategy here is removing Trump because with him in office, we ain't getting shyt...

I respectfully disagree


See you’re talking smart safe politics. And I get it. It’s comforting and less scary. It’s a moderate mentality.

I’m talking radical revolutionary shyt. Where we may have to take a short term L for a long term victory.

I’m not expecting anything to be resolved this election cycle. I’m not naive. I’m not fighting for myself. I’m fighting for my children and their kids.

If you don’t have the stomach to risk taking 4 more years of “hell” for the chance of getting to heaven, then you’re playing the short game.

You have already lived the past 3 years under the rule of this “open white supremecist”.. Tell me what harm has been done to you? What have you lost? Where are your scars? What anti-Black policies has he implemented ?

The fear mongers told us we’d all be dead within the first 6 months of his presidency. Biden said we’d be back on plantations picking cotton. (He really said this!)

Trump and the GOP are bad. But as a people we are strong and have survived so much worse. This generation is just uncomfortable with feeling uncomfort. We gotta toughen up..




Oh and what’s the difference between an “Open White Supremecist” and a regular White Supremecist? I keep seeing y’all use this adjective. It seems like a distinction without a difference.

 

[ultraflexed]

i don't think black immigrants expect part of the "reparations bag" coming to black americans. i don't think they're jealous. i do think immigrants and a lot of blacks americans are worried about the strategy because it's obvious where this administration is going. allowing them to gain even more power or put even more of their cronies in position of power is a lose lose situation for everyone.

I always preach hold your politicians accountable but you have to take into account the reality of your movement and the threat staring you in the face...There is no shot you getting anything tangible done this election cycle because this movement is still young with a rocky foundation and you don't have the numbers to be taken seriously...So all you reparations or nothing cats going to end up doing is getting 4 more years of an open white supremacist CAC in the oval which will ensure more anti-black policies and set us even further behind the 8 ball...

That's not smart politics my dude...The smart strategy here is removing Trump because with him in office, we ain't getting shyt...

What you both you are failing to understand is, why should we care If sh#t gets worse for everyone when sh#t is the worse for US NOW.

and according to the data, sh#t is on pace to get much worse of no immediate action is taken, no wealth by 2050, 70% of skid row homeless pop is black.

Wrap your mind around this one, the average Haitian family is worth 4,000, while the average black family is worth is 1700 liquid...
On top hiring discrimination we face from everyone.
Police harrassment, doing anything while black.

But were supposed to "get trump out of office" because "it will get worse for everyone"...not my problem.

We face overwhelming odds to break free from slavery.
Overwhelming odds to get the the right to vote
Overwhelmingly odd for civil rights


And now reparations, all without the help of the black immigrants or diaspora.

We don't need you to tell us anything. For this simple fact, if things were so great in your country you wouldn't of came to our country to piggyback off of ancestors labor.

All you can or should be doing is cheering leading from the sidelines, this isnt your fight.

This is the American descendant of slavery vs. United states government for reparation.

And we are going to use OUR strategy to get what we want.

Sh#t may have to get worse
Worse for everyone


Guess what, you always have a country to retreat too. #ADOS was born in the US and we gon die in the US. Our fight is here, time is NOW