Joy Ann Reid notices negative energy in Dem Party, offers thoughts...comments prove her right

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Are you retarded or did you not watch the DNC? :gucci:
Harris made her position clear and effectively created movements to urge people to actively vote third party and siphon votes from her

This breh and his random ass articles :russ: . Most voters don't give a fukk breh, no matter how much you want them to. And hurting one candidate so the other candidate who would prefer to see us extinct wins is a great plan. But I'm the moron :mjlol:
 
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I decided to look up "concern troll".

So is the argument here that I'm derailing or faking a real discussion about the genocide...by talking about it? What do you think my aim is and how do you measure my genuineness
No, you're concern trolling about the election, cynically exploiting Palestinians to do it. You're stuck in an East vs. West binary, where your actions aren't motivated by principles but by the preferences of your favored camp. You're like Napoleon, just in reverse: he's moved by the State Department, while you're pulled in the opposite direction. This disconnect leads you to hold an anti-imperialist stance when it comes to the West, while supporting Russia and making excuses for their invasion of Ukraine. You're a campist.
 

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This breh and his random ass articles :russ: . Most voters don't give a fukk breh, no matter how much you want them to. And hurting one candidate so the other candidate who would prefer to see us extinct is a great plan. But I'm the moron :mjlol:
I've posted 4 articles all pointing to one thing; this issue is important. You've done nothing but shrug and keke, exactly like the people Joy Reid is talking about. Had you actually read her post, you'd understand why this is a problem.

I'd prefer us not to fund a genocide AND beat Trump. But I guess that's crazy :childplease:
 

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BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT FACILITATING A GENOCIDE IS A DEMOCRAT :mindblown:



Am I in a south park episode? :why:

Don't cut off the rest of my comment like some goofball trying to answer the question he wishes I asked rather than the question I DID ask.

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I will make this clear. I understand why the Palestinians are protesting, and in particular focused on the Democratic party. I also state, they should be doing whatever they need to do to try to end the killings over there, because their people (which includes their direct family members) are suffering. Also, I do not believe it matters which party is in office when it comes to the Gaza issue. Both parties are in agreement on supporting Israel's actions in Gaza. So as it pertains to which one would be better for the Palestinians, I would say neither. So they should be prepared to protest both parties, because in the end both parties are participating in their people's genocide by aiding Israel.

That all being said, I am voting Democratic. Though the Democrats are nearly as evil as the Republicans in my mind (being both wings of the WS eagle), this desire by many of the Republicans to try to enthrone Trump needs to be hindered in my opinion. There is a cult of personality going on among Republicans that can be very dangerous, since they are comparing a man like Trump to the likes of Biblical Jesus. That sort of power in the hands of one man can lead to all sorts of problems, if he gets in his mind to use it. I rather him not have the opportunity at all.

So while I have empathy and compassion for what is going on in Gaza, and understand fully the desperation of those Palestinians here protesting, it will not change my vote at the moment because I still have to have more empathy and compassion for my own people. So I will hold my nose, vote Democratic in the Presidential election, and then go back to concerning myself with issues I can actually help change. I.E. issues local to my area.
 

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I've posted 4 articles all pointing to one thing; this issue is important. You've done nothing but shrug and keke, exactly like the people Joy Reid is talking about. Had you actually read her post, you'd understand why this is a problem.

I'd prefer us not to fund a genocide AND beat Trump. But I guess that's crazy :childplease:
This issue is important to a subset of people not large enough to affect the election. Your 4 articles are opinion pieces that don't even support your claim. I also prefer to not fund Israel and beat Trump. But the latter is much more important to me as it is to plenty of other Americans as it should be. Also for the umpteenth time it's not like we have a candidate in this election that will not fund Israel and beat Trump. Trump winning does not help anything and in fact would make matters worse. Why you continue to have this cognitive dissonance playing interference for Kamala and the Dems in regards to this issue is beyond me.
 

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No, you're concern trolling about the election, cynically exploiting Palestinians to do it. You're stuck in an East vs. West binary, where your actions aren't motivated by principles but by the preferences of your favored camp. You're like Napoleon, just in reverse: he's moved by the State Department, while you're pulled in the opposite direction. This disconnect leads you to hold an anti-imperialist stance when it comes to the West, while supporting Russia and making excuses for their invasion of Ukraine. You're a campist.
Interesting take. I was posting about this slaughter before election season went into full swing. So I can't quite understand how I'm doing this cynically about the election. It would also be naive to discuss this in a vacuum as if it has no effect on the election...when it demonstrably does. If you question my intent, you question the intent of everyone else who shares my sentiment. And at that point, is everyone else wrong or are you?

I am anti imperialist because I'm acutely aware of the toll it's taken on the global south. I don't care much for Ukrainians trying to force African students on the front lines for a conflict against Russia, but i don't care much for black people not being welcome in Russia. I don't care much for the Chinese treatment of Uighur Muslims but I also don't like that 25% of my demographic is in prison in the US.

To try and reduce a person's complex thoughts and positions into a binary is what you're doing. I'm not the "opposite" of anyone. I am me. Such an approach is reductionist and diminishes rich, meaningful discourse. So do terms like "concern trolling".
 

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This issue is important to a subset of people not large enough to affect the election. Your 4 articles are opinion pieces that don't even support your claim. I also prefer to not fund Israel and beat Trump. But the latter is much more important to me as it is to plenty of other Americans as it should be. Also for the umpteenth time it's not like we have a candidate in this election that will not fund Israel and beat Trump. Trump winning does not help anything and in fact would make matters worse. Why you continue to have this cognitive dissonance playing interference for Kamala and the Dems in regards to this issue is beyond me.
You better pray the polling, "opinions", and research are all wrong by November. Because if history is any indicator, they arent. This is 1968 all over again and we all know what happened. I'll keep posting about gaza and you can keep replying or don't -- I don't care what you do
 

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A lot of black voters who typically auto vote Dem are under the light.

You call out Republicans & it’s high fives & daps

You call out things you don’t agree with Democrats on then you’re the enemy now. It’s been building slowly the last decade but black people in general are less inclined to just vote blue & dribble be quiet. The people with common sense In our community are realizing the status quo isn’t sustainable.
I think a lot of Black ppl are so aghast because they had no scruples for their people, and were willing to vote blue no matter who

They can't even fathom that other groups ain't on that type of time
 
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You better pray the polling, "opinions", and research are all wrong by November. Because if history is any indicator, they arent. This is 1968 all over again and we all know what happened. I'll keep posting about gaza and you can keep replying or don't -- I don't care what you do
:dahell: Yeah let's ignore all the polling on the actual election for the ones you cherry pick that shows that people will be more motivated to vote for Harris, not that they wouldn't vote for her, if she supported not funding Israel. Also this isn't 1968. But continue overly exaggerating this one point, that I can't even call a single voter issue because it ain't even on the table.
 

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This is what I've thought was so significant about this moment. When ADOS was proposing we make our vote to democrats conditional she and many others smeared us as bots, agents and republican operatives. Now when it comes to Palestinians she's very clear eyed and sees the nobility of their activism. It is extremely frustrating to say the least.
I feel like part of it is we don't have a strong movement to hold ppl accountable
 
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