Joy Ann Reid notices negative energy in Dem Party, offers thoughts...comments prove her right

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Also,we fail to realize that things have changed within BOTH parties.

Alot of Neocons who were life long republicans have actually switched over to the Dems as the engine of the war machine now lies within that party.

Isreal is of course,the bipartisan outlier,as Aipac and jew money basically own washington.



Facts. I'd argue that 95% of Presidential candidates are Centrists that "play up a role" in the media to appear either more left or more right depending on which political party is more advantageous to their career. I'd argue the past 40 years all the Democratic Presidents have been Centrist. From Bill Clinton, to Obama, to Biden, and Harris if she wins
 

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China and Russia ain’t fighting a war over Iran and Palestine lmao. Both do billions of dollars in trade with Israel. Russia can’t even defend its own borders :mjlol: Iran is a damn near third world country and only wars it’s fighting is against teenage girls not wearing head scarves.

China invading Taiwan won’t happen until China is able to build a pipeline through Russia as the U.S. navy can shut off oil exports to China as nearly all Chinese imports come by sea.


Btw you don’t just “make their move” an invasion of Taiwan would be a larger invasion than D-Day. It would take months for perhaps years for them to build up a fleet and logistics to conduct it. We would know well in advance just like we knew Russia was going to invade Ukraine weeks before it happened.
That's crazy because this has been posited in several articles online and many commentators have mentioned
how a legit war in the middle east could spark a greater conflict.

Not to mention we're literally moving naval forces off the coast of Israel:

NY Times Article

CNN Article

AP News

Potential Tensions in Middle east dragging other nations into war:

The Week Article

Sir Roly Walkers Comments:

Preparing 1

Preparing 2


:yeshrug:
 

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That's crazy because this has been posited in several articles online and many commentators have mentioned
how a legit war in the middle east could spark a greater conflict.

Not to mention we're literally moving naval forces off the coast of Israel:

NY Times Article

CNN Article

AP News

Potential Tensions in Middle east dragging other nations into war:

The Week Article

Sir Roly Walkers Comments:

Preparing 1

Preparing 2


:yeshrug:
Put China invasion in your headline and you get clicks and papers want AD revenue.

The US state departments also wants fear of a Chinese invasion because it means they get Budget increases

Same reason we were told for years Russia was an existential threat to Europe and would conquer Europe in a week if we didn’t pass 20 military budget increases. Come to find out Russia can’t even conquer down the street.


China is going through n economic downturn right now. They are in no position militarily or financially or most importantly demographically to crash out over Palestine. Xi uses Taiwan to galvanize anger towards the outside world. It’s a propaganda tool.

China and Russia clearly see Israel and Palestine as the USA’s sphere of influence as they have done almost nothing to help the Palestinians.
 

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Put China invasion in your headline and you get clicks and papers want AD revenue.

The US state departments also wants fear of a Chinese invasion because it means they get Budget increases

Same reason we were told for years Russia was an existential threat to Europe and would conquer Europe in a week if we didn’t pass 20 military budget increases. Come to find out Russia can’t even conquer down the street.


China is going through n economic downturn right now. They are in no position militarily or financially or most importantly demographically to crash out over Palestine. Xi uses Taiwan to galvanize anger towards the outside world. It’s a propaganda tool.

China and Russia clearly see Israel and Palestine as the USA’s sphere of influence as they have done almost nothing to help the Palestinians.
Nowhere in either post you quoted did I say Russia or China would come to or is seeking to intervene in the Genocide
that Israel is currently enacting on the people of palestine.
 

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Where they are at right now is that they can't take any risks on this issue. A lot of people were talking about how there was no Palestinian speaker at the DNC even though the uncommitted movement offered speakers and speeches to be vetted.

From where they were standing though, they likely imagined the person getting on stage, making the speech and then at some point going off script and calling out Joe Biden for refusing to stop arms shipments, refusing to actually clap back at nutanyahu and failing to defend students being brutalized for speaking up for the palestinians. Then going after Josh shapiro and the other attendants at the convention who clapped when satanyahu tried to make a case for his holocaust to continue while visiting DC. The speaker would of course be 100 correct and spitting facts, but it would destroy the mood and ruin the hype meant to be generated by the convention. Once an archer's arrow is loosed from its bow, it is no longer in their control and what the speaker does when on stage would be out of their control. They cut the mic? they're silencing free speech. Let the person speak but the crowd isn't feeling it or they get booed? that's all that's going to be on the news next week. There's no way where allowing this to happen would have worked out well for them.

The survival of their party, and many people represented in the party (like the LGBTQ and black people, spanish speakers etc.) would be sealed if trump won again and they can't take that chance by letting the public feel like this party is hypocritical and won't do something on this issue, or that they will do something which will anger the many conservatives they've been successfully stealing from the republican party who might have stayed home on election day.

The SCOTUS essentially allowed a president to have his opponents assassinated. You think Donald Trump wouldn't do that shyt after January 6th where his morons literally tried to kill people? You've got one group that will at least say they want a ceasefire and admit that what Israel is doing is horrible and needs to stop, while on the other side that isn't even a topic up for discussion.

Kamala Harris ran to the left of Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries. She can be convinced, he can't. If she survives to election day and wins, then we'll see what happens then. Until that time, Joe Biden is still president and this is an issue he needs to be pressured into dealing with. Especially if he wants his party to win the election. It is within his power right now to tell the American people that Ukraine is making gains in Russia so he has no plans to give Israel anymore supplies because Ukraine needs it now as it's taking territory back from Russia. He could do that right now and that needs to be the plan. Get him to do that, and an election win is as close to guaranteed as you can get.
 

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Nowhere in either post you quoted did I say Russia or China would come to or is seeking to intervene in the Genocide
that Israel is currently enacting on the people of palestine.
China nor Russia is starting a war with the USA period.

For your reference


350,000 thousand men and 7,000 naval vessels. This was before precision guided missiles and drones.


Ukraine with no Navy has virtually cleared the Black Sea of the Russian navy just by using missiles and underwater drones.

China better get cracken or invent a teleportation device.
 

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Where they are at right now is that they can't take any risks on this issue. A lot of people were talking about how there was no Palestinian speaker at the DNC even though the uncommitted movement offered speakers and speeches to be vetted.

From where they were standing though, they likely imagined the person getting on stage, making the speech and then at some point going off script and calling out Joe Biden for refusing to stop arms shipments, refusing to actually clap back at nutanyahu and failing to defend students being brutalized for speaking up for the palestinians. Then going after Josh shapiro and the other attendants at the convention who clapped when satanyahu tried to make a case for his holocaust to continue while visiting DC. The speaker would of course be 100 correct and spitting facts, but it would destroy the mood and ruin the hype meant to be generated by the convention. Once an archer's arrow is loosed from its bow, it is no longer in their control and what the speaker does when on stage would be out of their control. They cut the mic? they're silencing free speech. Let the person speak but the crowd isn't feeling it or they get booed? that's all that's going to be on the news next week. There's no way where allowing this to happen would have worked out well for them.

The survival of their party, and many people represented in the party (like the LGBTQ and black people, spanish speakers etc.) would be sealed if trump won again and they can't take that chance by letting the public feel like this party is hypocritical and won't do something on this issue, or that they will do something which will anger the many conservatives they've been successfully stealing from the republican party who might have stayed home on election day.

The SCOTUS essentially allowed a president to have his opponents assassinated. You think Donald Trump wouldn't do that shyt after January 6th where his morons literally tried to kill people? You've got one group that will at least say they want a ceasefire and admit that what Israel is doing is horrible and needs to stop, while on the other side that isn't even a topic up for discussion.

Kamala Harris ran to the left of Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries. She can be convinced, he can't. If she survives to election day and wins, then we'll see what happens then. Until that time, Joe Biden is still president and this is an issue he needs to be pressured into dealing with. Especially if he wants his party to win the election. It is within his power right now to tell the American people that Ukraine is making gains in Russia so he has no plans to give Israel anymore supplies because Ukraine needs it now as it's taking territory back from Russia. He could do that right now and that needs to be the plan. Get him to do that, and an election win is as close to guaranteed as you can get.

 

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A a couple thousands like or comments represent the masses?

That dictates narratives and what the public feels or should care about.

I cant believe discourse has turned to this.
 

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Where they are at right now is that they can't take any risks on this issue. A lot of people were talking about how there was no Palestinian speaker at the DNC even though the uncommitted movement offered speakers and speeches to be vetted.

From where they were standing though, they likely imagined the person getting on stage, making the speech and then at some point going off script and calling out Joe Biden for refusing to stop arms shipments, refusing to actually clap back at nutanyahu and failing to defend students being brutalized for speaking up for the palestinians. Then going after Josh shapiro and the other attendants at the convention who clapped when satanyahu tried to make a case for his holocaust to continue while visiting DC. The speaker would of course be 100 correct and spitting facts, but it would destroy the mood and ruin the hype meant to be generated by the convention. Once an archer's arrow is loosed from its bow, it is no longer in their control and what the speaker does when on stage would be out of their control. They cut the mic? they're silencing free speech. Let the person speak but the crowd isn't feeling it or they get booed? that's all that's going to be on the news next week. There's no way where allowing this to happen would have worked out well for them.

The survival of their party, and many people represented in the party (like the LGBTQ and black people, spanish speakers etc.) would be sealed if trump won again and they can't take that chance by letting the public feel like this party is hypocritical and won't do something on this issue, or that they will do something which will anger the many conservatives they've been successfully stealing from the republican party who might have stayed home on election day.

The SCOTUS essentially allowed a president to have his opponents assassinated. You think Donald Trump wouldn't do that shyt after January 6th where his morons literally tried to kill people? You've got one group that will at least say they want a ceasefire and admit that what Israel is doing is horrible and needs to stop, while on the other side that isn't even a topic up for discussion.

Kamala Harris ran to the left of Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries. She can be convinced, he can't. If she survives to election day and wins, then we'll see what happens then. Until that time, Joe Biden is still president and this is an issue he needs to be pressured into dealing with. Especially if he wants his party to win the election. It is within his power right now to tell the American people that Ukraine is making gains in Russia so he has no plans to give Israel anymore supplies because Ukraine needs it now as it's taking territory back from Russia. He could do that right now and that needs to be the plan. Get him to do that, and an election win is as close to guaranteed as you can get.
Dems don't care about their constituents

Everything else might apply
 

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She was right about everything she said. She even mentioned that the folks she is speaking about are absolutely Pro Kamala, but they wont take lightly a lack of interest in solvingthe GAZA situation.

Joy has been on point about this shyt specifically, especially considering that Medi got fired for much less. Joy got some pull at that bytch. let her cook god dammit.
 

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Joy got some pull at that bytch. let her cook god dammit.
:skip: You really believe that? That she fighting the room? Until I see her catching some of that zionist smoke, this is all performative dumb shyt with the intent to make us believe the party is internally conflicted.

:umad: He aint’t even put a ring on it, you just live with that sissy. You not even somebody wife just a bytch living in somebody else crib
:mjlol: Our assets are held in trust. If you had anything, you'd know how to protect it. You continue to be outclassed. :francis:
 

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Where they are at right now is that they can't take any risks on this issue. A lot of people were talking about how there was no Palestinian speaker at the DNC even though the uncommitted movement offered speakers and speeches to be vetted.

From where they were standing though, they likely imagined the person getting on stage, making the speech and then at some point going off script and calling out Joe Biden for refusing to stop arms shipments, refusing to actually clap back at nutanyahu and failing to defend students being brutalized for speaking up for the palestinians. Then going after Josh shapiro and the other attendants at the convention who clapped when satanyahu tried to make a case for his holocaust to continue while visiting DC. The speaker would of course be 100 correct and spitting facts, but it would destroy the mood and ruin the hype meant to be generated by the convention. Once an archer's arrow is loosed from its bow, it is no longer in their control and what the speaker does when on stage would be out of their control. They cut the mic? they're silencing free speech. Let the person speak but the crowd isn't feeling it or they get booed? that's all that's going to be on the news next week. There's no way where allowing this to happen would have worked out well for them.

The survival of their party, and many people represented in the party (like the LGBTQ and black people, spanish speakers etc.) would be sealed if trump won again and they can't take that chance by letting the public feel like this party is hypocritical and won't do something on this issue, or that they will do something which will anger the many conservatives they've been successfully stealing from the republican party who might have stayed home on election day.

The SCOTUS essentially allowed a president to have his opponents assassinated. You think Donald Trump wouldn't do that shyt after January 6th where his morons literally tried to kill people? You've got one group that will at least say they want a ceasefire and admit that what Israel is doing is horrible and needs to stop, while on the other side that isn't even a topic up for discussion.

Kamala Harris ran to the left of Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries. She can be convinced, he can't. If she survives to election day and wins, then we'll see what happens then. Until that time, Joe Biden is still president and this is an issue he needs to be pressured into dealing with. Especially if he wants his party to win the election. It is within his power right now to tell the American people that Ukraine is making gains in Russia so he has no plans to give Israel anymore supplies because Ukraine needs it now as it's taking territory back from Russia. He could do that right now and that needs to be the plan. Get him to do that, and an election win is as close to guaranteed as you can get.
The Dems/Kamala aren't open to shyt. They play the good cop to keep your hope alive but trust when the rubber meets the road. They will say, "Aw shucks Republicans stopped us!" Or, " We would except (insert excuse)." They aren't about anything.
 
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What's left unsaid is that there are voters and special interests that will gladly flip to Trump if the Democrats/Harris openly embrace Palestinians, or put pressure on Israel to stop this genocide.

Those people are not called single-issue voters though, or reprimanded for not compromising their position because it could impact marginalized communities.

All this courting of high-level Repubs and 'Never Trumpers' doesn't come without future concessions btw. Now that Manchin is leaving, I'm sure there will be some new foil; a configuration of Congress, or existential crises that prevents Harris from doing stuff à la Obama. Resident coli politicos will be on deck to explain it all, and tell TLR "we don't know how government works".
 
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I know you want it to, but I don't think it will. I don't even think it will cost them Michigan. Why don't you just come out and say that's what you want instead of exploiting Palestinian plight to concern troll.

Just over a month left to elections.

Still think their support won't cost them? Or should we wait until it's abundantly clear that it did a month from now.

We're about to be pulled into a regional war 1 month before election and it all started with not stopping Israel from bombing and killing children and women.
 
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