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Old (supressed) news on Jewish-Palestinians genetic make-up being nearly identical.

Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians | World news | The Observer



Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians


Robin McKie, science editor
The Observer, Sunday 25 November 2001 06.24 EST

A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a leading journal.

Academics who have already received copies of Human Immunology have been urged to rip out the offending pages and throw them away.

Such a drastic act of self-censorship is unprecedented in research publishing and has created widespread disquiet, generating fears that it may involve the suppression of scientific work that questions Biblical dogma.

'I have authored several hundred scientific papers, some for Nature and Science, and this has never happened to me before,' said the article's lead author, Spanish geneticist Professor Antonio Arnaiz-Villena, of Complutense University in Madrid. 'I am stunned.'

British geneticist Sir Walter Bodmer added: 'If the journal didn't like the paper, they shouldn't have published it in the first place. Why wait until it has appeared before acting like this?'

The journal's editor, Nicole Sucio-Foca, of Columbia University, New York, claims the article provoked such a welter of complaints over its extreme political writing that she was forced to repudiate it. The article has been removed from Human Immunology's website, while letters have been written to libraries and universities throughout the world asking them to ignore or 'preferably to physically remove the relevant pages'. Arnaiz-Villena has been sacked from the journal's editorial board.

Dolly Tyan, president of the American Society of Histocompatibility and Immunogenetics, which runs the journal, told subscribers that the society is 'offended and embarrassed'.

The paper, 'The Origin of Palestinians and their Genetic Relatedness with other Mediterranean Populations', involved studying genetic variations in immune system genes among people in the Middle East.

In common with earlier studies, the team found no data to support the idea that Jewish people were genetically distinct from other people in the region. In doing so, the team's research challenges claims that Jews are a special, chosen people and that Judaism can only be inherited.

Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate, the authors state. Rivalry between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic differences', they conclude.

But the journal, having accepted the paper earlier this year, now claims the article was politically biased and was written using 'inappropriate' remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Its editor told the journal Nature last week that she was threatened by mass resignations from members if she did not retract the article.

Arnaiz-Villena says he has not seen a single one of the accusations made against him, despite being promised the opportunity to look at the letters sent to the journal.

He accepts he used terms in the article that laid him open to criticism. There is one reference to Jewish 'colonists' living in the Gaza strip, and another that refers to Palestinian people living in 'concentration' camps.

'Perhaps I should have used the words settlers instead of colonists, but really, what is the difference?' he said.

'And clearly, I should have said refugee, not concentration, camps, but given that I was referring to settlements outside of Israel - in Syria and Lebanon - that scarcely makes me anti-Jewish. References to the history of the region, the ones that are supposed to be politically offensive, were taken from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and other text books.'

In the wake of the journal's actions, and claims of mass protests about the article, several scientists have now written to the society to support Arnaiz-Villena and to protest about their heavy-handedness.

One of them said: 'If Arnaiz-Villena had found evidence that Jewish people were genetically very special, instead of ordinary, you can be sure no one would have objected to the phrases he used in his article. This is a very sad business.'



 

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That's a pretty old article, but is anyone really surprised by this (the findings, that is?) Historical evidence suggests that there were many mass conversions to Judaism happening throughout Jewish history, and the same goes for Islam, too.
 

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That's a pretty old article, but is anyone really surprised by this (the findings, that is?) Historical evidence suggests that there were many mass conversions to Judaism happening throughout Jewish history, and the same goes for Islam, too.



True. (Got negged? Hmm)
 

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That's a pretty old article, but is anyone really surprised by this (the findings, that is?) Historical evidence suggests that there were many mass conversions to Judaism happening throughout Jewish history, and the same goes for Islam, too.

the original 'stock' you start from in historical israel has to be pretty mixed up too.. the tales of which ancestry which people came from has about as much credibility as divine forefathers in other areas
 

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the original 'stock' you start from in historical israel has to be pretty mixed up too.. the tales of which ancestry which people came from has about as much credibility as divine forefathers in other areas

There are only very few ethnic groups in the world where the population wasn't "mixed" at the time of its mythical inception. These things are more a matter of where you choose to draw certain lines. I mean, even the earliest humans were mixed, in the sense that they were most certainly mixing with their closest non-human cousins even after humans became relatively distinct as a population.
 

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There are only very few ethnic groups in the world where the population wasn't "mixed" at the time of its mythical inception. These things are more a matter of where you choose to draw certain lines. I mean, even the earliest humans were mixed, in the sense that they were most certainly mixing with their closest non-human cousins even after humans became relatively distinct as a population.

:obama: good point. biological ethnicity can be as arbitrary as other cultural boundaries just because it depends on when that ethnic group started interbreeding more continuously
 

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:obama: good point. biological ethnicity can be as arbitrary as other cultural boundaries just because it depends on when that ethnic group started interbreeding more continuously

Right, and when you choose to draw the line for what counts as mixture. Let's say you have a distant Mongol ancestor, a distant Arab ancestor, and distant Persian ancestor (all quite possible, I think.) Do you count yourself as mixed or not? I mean, it is literally true that they are part of your family tree, even if your most recent ancestors have all identified as members of a single ethnic group for as long back as they can remember. The other point is that these categories can only be superimposed in retrospect. Maybe what you now consider mixture was not considered mixture back then, or vice versa.
 
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Middle Eastern Jews were Iraqi, Yemeni, Syrian and Palestinian Jews. The article fails to tell you of Eastern Europeans genetics have nothing to do with religion or ethnic birthright of Palestine.
 

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Nope.


It's sad to see politics trumping science again.

This study established the close relations between Jews and Palestinians, and certain Jewish elements who want to hold onto a mythical history for themselves are trying to suppress the findings. That is the only way the politics here is trumping the science.

As for ethnicity, that is not a genetic concept, so you're not making any sense by disagreeing with zerozero.
 
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This study established the close relations between Jews and Palestinians, and certain Jewish elements who want to hold onto a mythical history for themselves are trying to suppress the findings. That is the only way the politics here is trumping the science.

As for ethnicity, that is not a genetic concept, so you're not making any sense by disagreeing with zerozero.



Ethnicity may not be a genetic concept by definition, but Genetic clusters correlate with ethnicity.
 

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Ethnicity may not be a genetic concept by definition, but Genetic clusters correlate with ethnicity.

my point is though that all these genetic clusters mean is a historical period of heavier interbreeding between a certain population. The only REAL thing that separates a Han chinese dude from like a Korean with different ethnicity is that at some point their antecedents started breeding continuously within a certain demographic of similar people
 

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Ethnicity may not be a genetic concept by definition, but Genetic clusters correlate with ethnicity.

Yes, sometimes, but only sometimes. That's why ethnicity is not simply a shorthand for genetic populations. And even then, there's a subjective element that comes from how to draw the line for what constitutes a genetic cluster.
 
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