"JOSHUA handlers should be ARRESTED if they put him in the ring with WILDER"-TEDDY ATLAS

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

Joshua changes his story about as much as Hearns. It's evident by the replies in this post that most haven' been keeping up with Ass Juice and Mushroom Boxing.

First it was:

• I need 50 mill up front (Joshua)
  
• Okay. We'll give you 50 mill and split the PPV 50/50
• I don't believe they have 50 mill. We need guarantees. (Eddie Hearns)
• Weeks later, I never said they need to guarantee the money. I never even mentioned anything about money. (Eddie Hearns)
  
• Proof of money wired to escrow account (Haymon/Finkle/DiBella)
• I'm not selling my soul (Joshua)
  
• Small details need to resolved or no fight (E. Hearns/Joshua)
  
• Okay. Nothing that can't be worked out (Haymon/Finkle/DiBella)
• Don't take the fight, Anthony (Barry Hearns, Eddie's father)
• I'll reign down hell on Wilder (Joshua)
• I can't fight Wilder in Vegas, but I can fight "Big Gravy" Miller @ the Barclay's
• I owe it to my UK fans to have the Wilder fight in the UK for less money

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

Teddy Atlas isn't the only one.

The list of people telling Joshua to not take the fight:

• Barry Hearns
• Mike Tyson
• Nigel Benn
• Roy Jones Jr.
• Frank Bruno

 

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Teddy Atlas isn't the only one.

The list of people telling Joshua to not take the fight:

• Barry Hearns
• Mike Tyson
• Nigel Benn
• Roy Jones Jr.
• Frank Bruno

People acting like Wilder is the best HW champ ever walked this earth. He has fought bums and Ortiz was dealing with him before he got caught. Wilder has a punchers chance, good punchers chance but still AJ should be able to just outbox him and probably KO him. 40 fights against mostly nobodies, and most people in America don't know who he is

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

People acting like Wilder is the best HW champ ever walked this earth. He has fought bums and Ortiz was dealing with him before he got caught. Wilder has a punchers chance, good punchers chance but still AJ should be able to just outbox him and probably KO him. 40 fights against mostly nobodies, and most people in America don't know who he is

Well, if Wilder's the "bum-killer", why all the hesitation and roadblocks from Ass Juice (Joshua) and Team Mushroom (Matchroom) Boxing? Joshua should wipe the floor with "Windmill" Wilder and collect that easiest $50 million guarantee in history plus a 50/50 PPV split. But he won't. He (Joshua) just arrived in America secretly trying to negotiate a deal with Alexander PEDvetkin's promoter Andrey Ryabinsky. If Mushroom makes the fight with him, they will lose the purse bid (Ryabinsky is a billlionaire who has in the past overpaid 10x the amount of a bid's worth to force a fight in Russia) and have to fight PEDvetkin in Russia with a guy who is a known drug cheat. In the worst of scenarios, Joshua could fukk around and get KO'd by a roided PEDvetkin which could fukk up his future earnings and any potential legacy.

Something most people didn't know about the Ortiz fight. Wilder was sick with flu-like symptoms and still beat Ortiz. I knew about it prior to the fight (one of Wilder's sparring partners for the Ortiz fight is from my hometown) and you can hear Wilder speaking to his brother in his ear telling how he fought through it after stopping Ortiz which the mic picked up. Ortiz was down on the cards after being knocked down in the 5th. Wilder didn't wilt after being battered by Ortiz in the 7th and came back to stop Ortiz who was slobbering all over the place. Days later when asked if he wanted a rematch with Wilder, he flat out said no on a local Spanish station in Miami.

All of you Joshua stans are also forgetting that Eddie Hearns kept Ortiz on the backburner for almost two years after signing a deal with Matchroom with a promise to fight Joshua up to the point when he became Joshua's WBA mandatory. When it came time to fight him, after Joshua had gone life and death with an two years inactive, coming off a loss to Tyson Fury, 41 year old Klitchko, they (Barry and Eddie Hearns) gave him some bullshyt talking about they had to defend the IBF strap against bum ass Pulev. fukk a "Where's the fukk is Wallace, String?" Where the fukk is Pulev?

But, hey. You know more about boxing than all those people I listed above who are flat out telling Joshua to avoid they fight. They know something that you don't. Hell, even Joshua, at one time, was talking that fighting Wilder in 2019, 2020, 2021 bullshyt echoing Keith "Sometime" Thurman comments fighting Errol Spence Jr..

These are Roy Jones Jr.'s exact words concerning Joshua fighting Wilder:

“I’d like to see Joshua get one or two more preparation fights in. I see him on the incline, he’s getting better every fight but I want to see him at his peak (which is laughable for a fighter who is 28 and fans say is the better fighter vs Windmill "Bum-killer" Wilder) when he fights Wilder. I think Wilder is kinda at his peak now and I’d like to see both men there for when they fight.”

P.S. No one in America knows Wilder, but his last five viewership numbers are higher than Joshua's last five fights shown in the US.

 

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Well, if Wilder's the "bum-killer", why all the hesitation and roadblocks from Ass Juice (Joshua) and Team Mushroom (Matchroom) Boxing? Joshua should wipe the floor with "Windmill" Wilder and collect that easiest $50 million guarantee in history plus a 50/50 PPV split. But he won't. He (Joshua) just arrived in America secretly trying to negotiate a deal with Alexander PEDvetkin's promoter Andrey Ryabinsky. If Mushroom makes the fight with him, they will lose the purse bid (Ryabinsky is a billlionaire who has in the past overpaid 10x the amount of a bid's worth to force a fight in Russia) and have to fight PEDvetkin in Russia with a guy who is a known drug cheat. In the worst of scenarios, Joshua could fukk around and get KO'd by a roided PEDvetkin which could fukk up his future earnings and any potential legacy.

Something most people didn't know about the Ortiz fight. Wilder was sick with flu-like symptoms and still beat Ortiz. I knew about it prior to the fight (one of Wilder's sparring partners for the Ortiz fight is from my hometown) and you can hear Wilder speaking to his brother in his ear telling how he fought through it after stopping Ortiz which the mic picked up. Ortiz was down on the cards after being knocked down in the 5th. Wilder didn't wilt after being battered by Ortiz in the 7th and came back to stop Ortiz who was slobbering all over the place. Days later when asked if he wanted a rematch with Wilder, he flat out said no on a local Spanish station in Miami.

All of you Joshua stans are also forgetting that Eddie Hearns kept Ortiz on the backburner for almost two years after signing a deal with Matchroom with a promise to fight Joshua up to the point when he became Joshua's WBA mandatory. When it came time to fight him, after Joshua had gone life and death with an two years inactive, coming off a loss to Tyson Fury, 41 year old Klitchko, they (Barry and Eddie Hearns) gave him some bullshyt talking about they had to defend the IBF strap against bum ass Pulev. fukk a "Where's the fukk is Wallace, String?" Where the fukk is Pulev?

But, hey. You know more about boxing than all those people I listed above who are flat out telling Joshua to avoid they fight. They know something that you don't. Hell, even Joshua, at one time, was talking that fighting Wilder in 2019, 2020, 2021 bullshyt echoing Keith "Sometime" Thurman comments fighting Errol Spence Jr..

These are Roy Jones Jr.'s exact words concerning Joshua fighting Wilder:

“I’d like to see Joshua get one or two more preparation fights in. I see him on the incline, he’s getting better every fight but I want to see him at his peak (which is laughable for a fighter who is 28 and fans say is the better fighter vs Windmill "Bum-killer" Wilder) when he fights Wilder. I think Wilder is kinda at his peak now and I’d like to see both men there for when they fight.”

P.S. No one in America knows Wilder, but his last five viewership numbers are higher than Joshua's last five fights shown in the US.

Wouldn't say I'm a stan of Joshua but I dont view Wilder as this dominant HW....If I had to call I would say Joshua wins because he is the better boxer IMO but if Wilder catches him then its goodnight of course.

I know people dont know Joshua in the US but EVERYBODY does in the UK....Joshua has sold out stadiums in his last 3 fights here. Wilder fights in front of far less people...besides real boxing heads, he isn't very popular in his own country but anyway Joshua is in LA now and the fight will be signed and sealed over next few days and we go from there.

Wilder needed the Ortiz test before this fight, he showed some heart which we hadn't really seen from him before and that will only help with this fight. Same with AJ getting dropped and being stunned for a round or 2 vs Klit, showed us he had heart.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

What do you mean just now "showing some heart"? Wilder had been fighting with a damaged right hand since the first Stiverne fight and fought and stopped Chris "Raveoli" Arreola with a broken right hand and torn bicep before finally getting surgery.

Why would AJ be in LA to sign a fight with Wilder when Finkle and DiBella are in NY? You know who is in California right now? Andrey Ryabinsky! Who is PEDvenkin's promoter who just flew out to LA to hound Tom Loeffler and Dis-Able Sanchez after leaving from New Jersey trying to force the IBF to strip GGG if he doesn't face his mandatory against Sergiy Derevyanchenko, a fighter he promotes, in August.

fukk ticket sales. fukk how many people you can fight in a stadium. There were empty seats at Mayweather-Pacquiao and Mayweather-McGregor in a venue that holds 1/5 of those stadiums Joshua has fought. Those live gates dwarfed Joshua-Klitschko. The ticket prices in the UK aren't even comparable to the US. You have heavyweight championship bouts from the 90s with higher live gate receipts that Joshua-Klit. The live gate for Joshua-Klit was just under £8 million ($10.7 million). It's nowhere close to the top 15 highest live gates in boxing history regardless of weigh division. The Tyson-McNeeley live gate was almost $14 million at a time when some of you guys weren't even born.

Eddie Hearns, out of his own mouth, last Thursday, finally admitted a stadium fight in the UK couldn't generate that kind of revenue. This weekend, Joshua in a interview said he would take less money to keep the fight in the UK "because he owes it to the fans" but had no qualms about a potential fight against Jarrell "Big Jelly", excuse me, "Big Gravy", excuse me, "Big Baby Back Ribs" Miller at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, NY.

I just want to see the guys claiming they're the best to fight the best. One guys has consistently met all the demands that the other guy requested and it seems like everyday either he or one of his promoters comes up with a new demand or reason why they can't make a fight.

 

[Dushane Hill]

Wilder sitting at home like

 

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Wilder fanatics are now accusing Joshua of being a culture vulture for showing up at a basketball game, you couldn't make this shyt up.

 

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Just how did a proposed fight between two black men become a racial issue?

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

Meanwhile, Fast Eddie is meeting up with PEDvetkin promoter Andrey Ryabinsky. This is from last week. The Ass Juice team team has no intentions of making a fight with Wilder. Every time a demand from the Joshua side is made, it's met. When it's met, there's a new brand new demand. I smell p*ssy.

Just how did a proposed fight between two black men become a racial issue?

Because, any fighter the LDBC backs, the YTBC goes against even if the challenger is non-white. The LDBC were GGG & Lomanchenko fans before the wider YTBC acknowledged their talent, especially Loma. They hated his style at first. When he started getting prais, Kovalev losing twice to Ward and GGG looked vulnerable against Jacobs and CLENelo, they hopped on the Loma bandwagon.

Just wait until Tyson Fury fights in June and looks good against his opponent. A lot of the "AJ fans" are going to jump ship and navigate over to Fury.

It's unheard of two black champions being pitted against each other with one guy being the considered the "black people's champion" and the other the favorite of the "real Americans".

That's never happened in the history of heavyweight boxing before.

 

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Just how did a proposed fight between two black men become a racial issue?

It's just more of this AA vs Black British nonsnese IMO

Wilder fans just seem salty that a Black British man is the main guy in the devision, in a position that Wilder was meant to be in had he had a better team around him.

Also Wilder is partly to blame for saying AJ is just another black guy getting milked by a white guy. Even though AJ makes a lot more money than him and he himself has two white guys taking a cut out of his purse everytime he fights.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

Just how did a proposed fight between two black men become a racial issue?

It's just more of this AA vs Black British nonsnese IMO

Wilder fans just seem salty that a Black British man is the main guy in the devision, in a position that Wilder was meant to be in had he had a better team around him.

Also Wilder is partly to blame for saying AJ is just another black guy getting milked by a white guy. Even though AJ makes a lot more money than him and he himself has two white guys taking a cut out of his purse everytime he fights.

Eddie Hearns is advising his fighter to give up to $20 million to have the fight in the UK instead of the US.

Anthony Joshua ‘to take £7m pay cut’ to deliver Deontay Wilder knockout to UK fans

ANTHONY JOSHUA is willing to leave at least £7million on the table in order to force Deontay Wilder to come to the UK to defend his WBC belt in an undisputed heavyweight showdown this year, it has been claimed.

The 28-year-old is desperate for a shot at becoming the first four-belt heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis in 1999, with Wilder’s version of the title providing the final piece in the jigsaw to write his place in the history books forever.

But the American is playing hardball in negotiations, hoping to force Joshua to travel to the US by publicly offering him $50m – the sum AJ stated he would demand to head stateside – to take the fight on Wilder’s terms.

Speaking to The Telegraph this week, Joshua’s promoter, Eddie Hearn, provided an update on negotiations between the two sides.

“One thing is for absolute certain, AJ wants Wilder next," Hearn said.

"He’s made that clear. He also feels though, after talking to Rob McCracken, his trainer and manager, that this is a fight that should be delivered in the UK.

“One for the fans and two, he feels like he’s earned that right.

"AJ’s not really swayed by an extra £10m or £15m. He’d rather do the fight over here in front of his fans.

"There have been talks ongoing with Alexander Povetkin’s team because he’s our mandatory opponent (for the WBA title). If it’s not Wilder it will almost certainly be Povetkin, which is also a tough fight. We’ll see how the conversations go, but I’d say we’ve got another three weeks to go."

Speaking during a public appearance recently, unified IBF, WBA and WBO champion Joshua sounded set on a showdown with Wilder this year, promising fireworks to a crowd in Bournemouth when the pair finally do meet.

“I ain’t got nothing to lose and I’m [going to] rain down hell on him [Wilder] – I’m going to f*** him up bad,” Joshua said.

“You’ve seen it, I can go to hell and back. I enjoy it there as well, this time I’m going to own it.”

 

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People acting like Wilder is the best HW champ ever walked this earth. He has fought bums and Ortiz was dealing with him before he got caught. Wilder has a punchers chance, good punchers chance but still AJ should be able to just outbox him and probably KO him. 40 fights against mostly nobodies, and most people in America don't know who he is

Ortiz did well but lost. And Wilder is willing to do it all to fight..this kid is talking about 50 mil or I gotta fight someone no one gives a fukk about. Lol.

 

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Ortiz did well but lost. And Wilder is willing to do it all to fight..this kid is talking about 50 mil or I gotta fight someone no one gives a fukk about. Lol.

Let's not forget that Wilder threw out that 50 mill offer without a REAL offer being sent to AJ's team, he just said it without having it to show for the fight. Nobody is turning down a real 50 mill offer. I mean Wilder has never seen anything near $50 mill for a fight and all of a sudden he is now throwing that figure around

 

[malbaker86]

Yeah but he's fought like 1 top 10 ranked fighter in 40 fights, never fought a champion and never unified, compared to a Joshua who's fought about 5 top 10 ranked fighters, two world champions a future hall of famer and unified 4 belts in half the amount of fights as Wilder, it's a poor record for a man that's been a professional fighter for a decade.

Thats not Wilder's fault