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Jordan Poole is literally the worst player in the league
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The man knows his role and is playing his part.
It's good that the Wizards have finally decided to tank one year after a draft with the most hyped rookie since Bron, and inow n a year that basically everyone who knows anything is saying this is the worst rookie class in years.
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No they don’t. All nba team selections dont tell you the whole story and it’s an even worse metric to use when comparaing players or trying to figure who the best players in the league are.
I can use celtics players as an example:
Paul Pierce should have at least 2 more all nba teams on his resume pre big 3(00-01 & 05-06),but because his teams were bad, he gets not votes. Pierce’s highest all nba selection came in a year he only average 20ppg(08-09). From 2000-2005 there was no small forward in the nba better than pierce but he only made all
Nba twice
Another example is jayson tatum. Jayson Tatum would never make all nba 1st team playing in the 2000s. But because guys like lebron and kd are out of their prime and cant stay on the court, Tatum’s only real competition is Giannas.
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O, they absolutely fukking waited too long. But this is a multi year rebuild if you even get a second banana caliber player in this draft you’re gonna have a shot at cooper Flagg or whoever ends up being the top guy next year too.
This wizards team is not going to improve unless people think the 18 year old couliby is gonna make some massive leap in the offseason. Wiz are gonnna be bad for a long time but they absolutely held onto Beal for too long and they never should’ve given him that no trade clause
Also wouldn’t be shocked if they shipped kouzma out for garbage and expirings as well
Like do yall realize how horrifically shyt this team is? This is a long term rebuild where they’ll be picking in the top 5 for at least 2-3 more years, by then Poole’s contract will be a tradable asset even if he stinks to high heaven
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agree to disagree on all of this
The Warriors didn’t have to sign Poole to that contract and could have waited one more year on his original deal , that contract is totally on them
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I mean yeah, the salary floor exists to keep teams from just outright tanking completely. Shockingly, teams could be much worse than the Spurs, Detroit or Washington are right now
True but I’m speaking to players like Poole getting those types of contracts in general.
It's easily the best metric to figure out who the best players in the league are. You can't name a better one.
Yeah, we definitely know that this isn't going to be biased.
Is Tracey McGrady nobody to you?
All-NBA teams aren't meant to tell you who the best SF is, they go by forwards. The Pierce of that era wasn't better than Duncan, Dirk, Garnett, Webber or McGrady, and by 2005 he wasn't better than LeBron either. If you wanted him to sneak into one of those last slots on the 3rd team, then maybe he should have played better defense, but he didn't and that's why guys who actually impacted the game on both ends, like Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, or Shawn Marion would manage to sneak into that last spot ahead of him.
stepbackj34spud
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It's easily the best metric to figure out who the best players in the league are. You can't name a better one.
Yeah, we definitely know that this isn't going to be biased.
Is Tracey McGrady nobody to you?
All-NBA teams aren't meant to tell you who the best SF is, they go by forwards. The Pierce of that era wasn't better than Duncan, Dirk, Garnett, Webber or McGrady, and by 2005 he wasn't better than LeBron either. If you wanted him to sneak into one of those last slots on the 3rd team, then maybe he should have played better defense, but he didn't and that's why guys who actually impacted the game on both ends, like Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, or Shawn Marion would manage to sneak into that last spot ahead of him.
Is T-Mac a nobody to me? Absolutely. A guy who never made it out of the first round of the playoffs, and gets overrated because he had one season averaging over 30ppg. Im taking Pierce over him easily.
You proved my point for me. You named all those bullshyt ass players that were sneaking in on all nba teams over Pierce. Yet at the end of the day, Pierce is top 75 all time and those guys aren’t or barely hall of fame.
Tired of your Pierce slander. Next time you try to shyt on Pierce in favor of bum ass T-Mac you better show me some big games Mac has played in and won. Go to bed you hating ass old nikka.
Paul Pierce didn't even make it to the first round in any of those years you think he got screwed out of an All-NBA bid.
You said yourself:
In 2001, Pierce won 36 games and missed the playoffs with Antoine Walker and crap.
In 2006, Pierce won 33 games and missed the playoffs with Ricky Davis, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West, Raef LaFrentz, Kendrick Perkins, Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, and Mark Blount.
I mean, that's pretty much the 2008 Cavs roster who LeBron took to 7 against the Celtics superteam, and Pierce barely won 30 games.
When T-Mac fails to advance with a bad team it proves he ain't shyt, when Paul Pierce fails to advance with a bad team it proves the voters screwed him.
stepbackj34spud
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Paul Pierce didn't even make it to the first round in any of those years you think he got screwed out of an All-NBA bid.
You said yourself:
In 2001, Pierce won 36 games and missed the playoffs with Antoine Walker and crap.
In 2006, Pierce won 33 games and missed the playoffs with Ricky Davis, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West, Raef LaFrentz, Kendrick Perkins, Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, and Mark Blount.
I mean, that's pretty much the 2008 Cavs roster who LeBron took to 7 against the Celtics superteam, and Pierce barely won 30 games.
When T-Mac fails to advance with a bad team it proves he ain't shyt, when Paul Pierce fails to advance with a bad team it proves the voters screwed him.
That group is nothing like the role players from 08. 2006 & 2007 Celtics were god awful. They lost 16 straight games WITHOUT Pierce in the lineup. This is like expecting one player to carry the 2024 Pistons. You sound dumb.
Again you are proving my point. If you are gonna use all nba selections to rank and compare individual players, then team success should not be a factor.
Bilal Coulibaly is going to be good. How good? It's up to him. Kid has all the physical tools you want in a modern wing. He already defends at a high level and he can jump over dudes.
But he's just one piece. The 2024 lottery pick has to be a hit even in this 'weak' draft.
And if Wes Unseld Jr is coaching, he'll be a good tank commander for the Cooper Flagg sweepstakes next year.